US military quietly discharging immigrant soldiers....

hal9000

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How are we going to keep all these wars going without new recruits?

https://www.apnews.com/38334c4d061e493fb108bd975b5a1a5d/AP-NewsBreak:-US-Army-quietly-discharging-immigrant-recruits
 

GromsDad

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hal9000 said:
How are we going to keep all these wars going without new recruits?

https://www.apnews.com/38334c4d061e493fb108bd975b5a1a5d/AP-NewsBreak:-US-Army-quietly-discharging-immigrant-recruits
Have you stopped to think that Trump might be getting us out of these messes that other presidents made and so far hasn't entered us into any new ones?
 

hal9000

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GromsDad said:
hal9000 said:
How are we going to keep all these wars going without new recruits?

https://www.apnews.com/38334c4d061e493fb108bd975b5a1a5d/AP-NewsBreak:-US-Army-quietly-discharging-immigrant-recruits
Have you stopped to think that Trump might be getting us out of these messes that other presidents made and so far hasn't entered us into any new ones?
He pushed for invading Venezuela last year
 

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hal9000 said:
GromsDad said:
hal9000 said:
How are we going to keep all these wars going without new recruits?

https://www.apnews.com/38334c4d061e493fb108bd975b5a1a5d/AP-NewsBreak:-US-Army-quietly-discharging-immigrant-recruits
Have you stopped to think that Trump might be getting us out of these messes that other presidents made and so far hasn't entered us into any new ones?
He pushed for invading Venezuela last year
CNN reported that Trump "asked his advisers" about invading Venezuela last August. That's how Trump hating CNN reported it and I will take them at their word for the sake of this post.

A: What's wrong with asking his advisers about the possibility of sending forces in to stabilize a situation that was spiraling out of control at the time?

B: Did he really "PUSH" for it as you claim or did he just seek council on the possibility?

C: Obviously we didn't invade.

D: Since we didn't invade do you give him credit for having good advisers around him?

E: Since we didn't invade do you give him credit for taking the advice of his advisers?

F: You're a fvcking moron.
 

GDaddy

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Recruits are required to pass background checks. A certain percentage of recruits - citizen and non-citizen alike - don't pass. The U.S. military supposedly enlists thousands of non-citizens every year, so under normal circumstances a certain percentage of them won't pass, either.

The AP writer doesn't know how widespread the situation is and neither do the attorneys who filed suit. They know of 40 so far. One of the claims being made is that the military added onerous background requirements to immigrant recruits, and then when those couldn't be completed prior to the recruit entering boot camp they get discharged.

One of the problems the military has been commenting about is it's gang activity problem, up to and including MS-13 members getting in. So any ramp up in background screening that could be attributed to that might be justified, and might not be attributable to an anti immigrant bias.

Which, lest we forget, those people aren't even entitled to be here in the U.S. in the first place. Whatever loopholes we establish for them amount to an act of generosity on our case, not a moral obligation.

It probably won't be long before the military releases the data on its non-citizen enlistment statistics. At that point the attorneys who filed suit will be better informed as to whether their allegations have merit.
 

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hal9000 said:
GromsDad said:
hal9000 said:
How are we going to keep all these wars going without new recruits?

https://www.apnews.com/38334c4d061e493fb108bd975b5a1a5d/AP-NewsBreak:-US-Army-quietly-discharging-immigrant-recruits
Have you stopped to think that Trump might be getting us out of these messes that other presidents made and so far hasn't entered us into any new ones?
He pushed for invading Venezuela last year
How’s that invasion going?
 

GromsDad

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Now we know where Hal gets his marching orders and talking points. Vox.com :roflmao:

Headline: We need to talk about the fact that Trump seriously considered invading Venezuela
https://www.vox.com/2018/7/6/17536908/trump-venezuela-invade-military
 

afoaf

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I didn't say they weren't left leaning.

Breitbart is a bit more on the nose and factually dubious.

 

Autoprax

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I trip out when people attack ethos in order to evade logos.

It's an epidemic form of intellectual cowardliness.

We're all guilty of it.

Even me.
 

Ifallalot

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Despite the marketing the military isn't actually a jobs program or a ticket to college...
 

Kento

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ifallalot said:
Despite the marketing the military isn't actually a jobs program or a ticket to college...
It can be. My cousin went into National Guard just before 9/11 (unlucky timing) but while in Iraq, he got not just his college degree but also a masters and PhD. He is pretty damn smart and driven, though (those nerdy Indians :monkey: ) . Most of the others in his unit were pretty lazy and more interested in pulling hookers on a -15 to 2 scale.
 

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ifallalot said:
Despite the marketing the military isn't actually a jobs program or a ticket to college...
It was my ticket to college and a crash course on accountability, responsibility, and time management. Had I gone straight to college I would have just drank and fathered illegitimate children.