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i dont know ... i love the way mine feels. thats all i gotta say. 000 is onto something here, maybe not a replacement for a thruster bu definately and alternative.
 

LeeD

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Sure, quick as a twin, wider sweetspot, less chance for cavitate/ventilate, fast on the wall, a little slow on the straight ahead drop in.
And complicated, lotsa room for errors, more things to go wrong.
But excellent for quickturning, snappy, powerful surfers.
 

000

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they work, thats why ive been on em 10 years now. usually only wierdos ride em. back in the 80s i thought they were a joke (didnt ride one back then)
 

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zafter putting the fins in and looking at it i was thinking "oh ***** this is ognna be tracky, thats way too much fin for what i want". i guess the absence of the rear center stabilizer provides for losseness, plus im sure the bouble wings didnt hinder it either. im still waiting to get it in some really good uncrowded waves, but so far it really cooks and the only limitation is myself. and Leed, what do you mean by complicated?
 

jettylocal

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they work, thats why ive been on em 10 years now. usually only wierdos ride em. back in the 80s i thought they were a joke (didnt ride one back then)


Sorry for ruining the photo with the inane crop. I guess back in 1983 my Minolta waterproof 110 couldn't fit the whole quiver in frame <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bawling.gif" alt="" />

To summarize:

* Hurley 5'8" 4-fin squash with almost similar size fins clustered together.
* Glassic 5'8" 4-fin squash shaped similar to the Hurley. It was my friend's seventh board so it didn't quite exactly match.
* Midget Smith 5'7" 4-fin double wing swallow with more of a Glen Winton setup..larger front fins with smaller ones further back on the tail.
* Line Up 5'8" 4-fin with what looks like a single wing (I'm pretty sure this was a squash also).

The Midget Smith one has the best story. I bought it off the rack at a shop in HB in 1983. They had two rows of boards displayed, one on ground level and one row about eight feet off the ground where the salesperson would have to get a ladder to get the board down. Anyway, I came in a bunch of days in a row and kept looking up at the Midget Smith board but didn't have the guts to ask the salesperson to get the board down. Finally, I gave it a shot and asked the guy behind the counter if I could check out the board. Clearly the guy did not want to get the ladder out to show me the board...he kept saying how the ones on the floor level were much better for my abilities. Finally realizing I wasn't giving up, he said to me, "Well, there aren't many guys that come in here that can handle a board like that, but I can tell you are the one!" With that I plunked down $300 and walked out of the store. I'd like to say I know how the board went, but since I was a beginner I really had no idea...(I do know it went in a straight line pretty fast) <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
 

Tanner

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Somebody please set me and Shipman straight......

I'm under the impression that if the large fins are in front, like mine - it's a quad, and if the small fins are in front, like Shipman's, it's a twinzer.

The ruling?
 

000

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in my opinion on a fish or 80s shape a twin fin is just fine. i ride an asp world tour style board with 4 fins. holds in better with 4. and in my experience double foiled fins ruin the speed factor. single foiled only1
 

Shipman

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Somebody please set me and Shipman straight......

I'm under the impression that if the large fins are in front, like mine - it's a quad, and if the small fins are in front, like Shipman's, it's a twinzer.

The ruling?
Quads usually have the fins set further apart with the back fins further back than a twinzer. I prefer the twinzer over a quad.. I have ridden my board with the bigger fins in front.. didn't seem to ride as well that way..
 

000

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CONCAVES R ALWAYS A GREAT IDEA, BUT wills twinzer originally just had a wierd channel along the stringer by the tail
 

Shipman

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Yes! concaves, a tail channel for drive and some extra hold is good.. The old school Quads/Clusters with the back fins further back on the tail than say Wills or my Twinzers are a completely different ride, they are two completely different systems.
 
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not a band wagoner here. just my .02 000 turned me on to true new school progressive quads. aggressive fin set up, hard rails and deep double concave. its the best 6-2 ive ever owned in 26 + years of surfing stand up. i wish i could get it in an epoxy. i like it so much i'm afraid of snapping it.
 

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Miki Dora status
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mine doesnt have too much hard rails. actually theyre only hard up until the trailing edge of the front fins, form there they are very pinched low rails.