On the flip side there are also whispers to lay off calls for impeachment and hope Trump sinks the Repubelican Party.
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It has basically been determined the election was stolen - now Hillary??
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Trump has shown zero ability to get anything done other than symbolic executive orders and doing everything in his power to make sure the environment gets fvcked (not just AGW related, so relax Surfdog). Maybe that will change if he is cleared of wrong doing...maybe not.casa_mugrienta said:For Democrats, yes.ifallalot said:Look what you dipshits have done now.
He's better than Trump?
What they want is the thumb-up-their-ass Republican leadership and policies people voted against. That's their hope to take back the White House.
Nightmare scenario for them is if Trump makes it through the storm and stuff like tax reform gets passed.
As long as the controversy continues, nothing will get done.sizzld1 said:Trump has shown zero ability to get anything done other than symbolic executive orders and doing everything in his power to make sure the environment gets fvcked (not just AGW related, so relax Surfdog). Maybe that will change if he is cleared of wrong doing...maybe not.casa_mugrienta said:For Democrats, yes.ifallalot said:Look what you dipshits have done now.
He's better than Trump?
What they want is the thumb-up-their-ass Republican leadership and policies people voted against. That's their hope to take back the White House.
Nightmare scenario for them is if Trump makes it through the storm and stuff like tax reform gets passed.
That's the whole idea.
This. Blame the game. But I wouldn't worry, it shouldn't take long for Trump to do something so utterly stupid that there will be no choice but to impeach him.ifallalot said:
The election was hardly stolen. HRCs campaign apparently said those things and did those things. If the disclosures actually were of effect on the outcome in the swing states - which I strongly doubt - blaming the messenger won't get you to a "stolen" election.
The catch-22 here is this: If you think the disclosures were of effect on the election you're also saying that she deserved to lose those votes based on that information, and conversely that she didn't deserve the votes of anyone whose vote depended on her omissions. OTOH, if you think the disclosures were not of effect on the election then there's still no logical basis by which to call the election stolen.
Now whether or not you support impeaching Trump on the manner in which he campaigned - as opposed to the mistakes he's made since he's been in office - that's perfectly fine. But IMO calling the election stolen is grossly overstating the case.
The catch-22 here is this: If you think the disclosures were of effect on the election you're also saying that she deserved to lose those votes based on that information, and conversely that she didn't deserve the votes of anyone whose vote depended on her omissions. OTOH, if you think the disclosures were not of effect on the election then there's still no logical basis by which to call the election stolen.
Now whether or not you support impeaching Trump on the manner in which he campaigned - as opposed to the mistakes he's made since he's been in office - that's perfectly fine. But IMO calling the election stolen is grossly overstating the case.
>>>I really, really, really want Hillary to be Prez, wahhhhh <<<
If we scream loud enough, and click our ruby slippers twice, it just might happen.
If we scream loud enough, and click our ruby slippers twice, it just might happen.
