OK, I went back and read what I postedsizzld1 said:Look at this thread.
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Investigate Mueller.
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If you were being serious. Then I disagree. Every indication is that Mueller handled the investigation professionally. The conclusion is what it is and we should all respect it absent some factual basis to dispute it.casa_mugrienta said:
I do think Trump should have been put under oath, but he would have fought like hell against any subpoena and it would have just caused further damage.
Stoked more division, caused Trump to go on the attack even more, drawn the investigation out further, etc.casa_mugrienta said:
If Mueller reasonably believed he could conclude the investigation without it, I can accept that. Even though I don't necessarily like it.
So finding out about Russian collusion wasn't worth it?sizzld1 said:
Or you're sounding like there wasn't a whole lot of there there.
No. What I'm saying is Mueller was in the best place to make the decision. We still don't know what was there.
IMO, there are many deeply concerning facts that have been confirmed through admissions and court pleadings, but Mueller was in a much better place to determine whether fighting that particular fight was likely to lead to a worth while result.
IMO, there are many deeply concerning facts that have been confirmed through admissions and court pleadings, but Mueller was in a much better place to determine whether fighting that particular fight was likely to lead to a worth while result.
"Worthwhile result"sizzld1 said:
What result, exactly?
You're implying Mueller was attempting to prove something.
I sure hope not.
The premise of this whole shitshow was Trumpster may have been Putin's puppet.
If Mueller is the kind of guy that thinks investigating every nook and cranny just isn't worth the effort..
You're really digging deep for a "gotcha" here. Read my posts. They aren't difficult to understand and I'm not trying to imply anything I didn't write. Mueller was charged with handling a very sensitive investigation. Part of that charge is determining the best way to go about it. I believe he did what he thought was best based on the evidence he had and what he thought he may be able to discovery by pushing further. Subpoenaing a sitting President who has indicated he would not testify voluntarily and would not submit to a subpoena from his own DOJ is a very serious decision. I have no reason to believe he did anything other than what he thought was best given the circumstance.
To be fair, "worth while result" was not a very articulate way to say what I meant....
To be fair, "worth while result" was not a very articulate way to say what I meant....
At least he backed off before this pointsizzld1 said:
On the other hand, he participated in putting the nation through 2 yrs of BS over nothing
He allowed massive speculation as to whether the president was a traitor
How long has he known there was no real charge?
This isn’t just an oopsie
I don't think there's any reason to believe that. Time will tell I guess. But, being named a special prosecutor comes with a duty to fulfill your command to the utmost of your ability using every available resource - and they are given essentially unlimited resources. Ken Starr has spoken eloquently about that aspect of the job in the past.
I think we will find out whether this was ethicalsizzld1 said:
On its face it seems extremely troubling that such a charge could be left out there for a couple of years and come to nothing
Don’t forget all of the govt bigwigs that fueled the speculation, Comey, Brennan, Sally Yates
Top law enforcement and intelligence people
Secret warrants
It’s crazy dude
Imagine if the state decided to throw that at you
Trump is president but he’s also a citizen with rights
This is not how stuff is supposed to work here
Why do you automatically trust them?sizzld1 said:
That is what i really can’t understand
Do you always trust police?
How is this different?
Trust who? Mueller? He didn't come to the conclusion I thought he likely would, but I have no reason to distrust him. He's had a longstanding and highly distinguished career as a public servant. He took an oath to uphold the Constitution. Every indication is that he has taken that oath seriously. If facts come out that call that into question then so be it. I'll be right there with you calling for an investigation and appropriate punishment. But, so far, there are none that I'm aware of.
To answer your other question, I do usually trust police investigations unless there is some sort of evidence that calls the particular investigation into question.
To answer your other question, I do usually trust police investigations unless there is some sort of evidence that calls the particular investigation into question.