You know who else hates AM’s?
One Robert “Kelly” Slater.
One Robert “Kelly” Slater.
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K2.1 is my favorite quad set. Still trying to replicate them in Futures. WCT fronts are the same but the rears….I don't want to misquote, but I think GG said the popularity of the AM was due to the rise of boards with heavy tail rocker.
I think the AM is quite different than most other templates.
There was a time the the K2.1 was very popular.
GG's looks like a hybrid of the AM and k2.1
Those aren't the sameK3…
AM2…
endorfins?K2.1 is my favorite quad set. Still trying to replicate them in Futures. WCT fronts are the same but the rears….
Would be nice if I could find measurements on them. Or if someone has a set of those and 2.1s to compare….endorfins?
Yeah, it kinda blew me away - two sets of fins, relatively close, could feel so different in the board.Have to say, the last time I used AM-2's, in a Pyz2, the board felt really dead and slow.
Easily the worst fin set I have used in that board.
No, the Jordys were the first fins I ever tried and they an instant hit.Pyzel website recommends JJF future fins with the pyzalien2, did you start there?
Removable fin systems, Asian sweatshops, and surfers with disposable income have provided shapers an easy out - "Try a different set of fins".
Greg Griffin RIP really had the right idea - there is going to be an optimal fin for a board, the two work as a unit - amazing how this is not part of the shaper's equation anymore.
Interesting comment, and it makes sense. I've recently discovered that I prefer boards with pronounced tail rocker, so it tracks that I love the AM2's.I don't want to misquote, but I think GG said the popularity of the AM was due to the rise of boards with heavy tail rocker.
I think the AM is quite different than most other templates.
There was a time the the K2.1 was very popular.
GG's looks like a hybrid of the AM and k2.1
Had a similar experience with the Ghost .... pumping waves and felt like i was dragging a boat anchor.Have to say, the last time I used AM-2's, in a Pyz2, the board felt really dead and slow.
Easily the worst fin set I have used in that board.
I ride mine with eric arakawa techflexHad a similar experience with the Ghost .... pumping waves and felt like i was dragging a boat anchor.
K2.1 is my favorite quad set. Still trying to replicate them in Futures. WCT fronts are the same but the rears….
Could be a visual bias. According to Jordy and Futures Jordy fins are simply re-skinned AMs with the trailer slightly larger. Even Jordy continued to choose AMs, when they should work the same. It was just in his head.I think this is due to the popularity of CI in CA.
Seems like a logical choice so people use them.
To me they have always felt dead and not engaged.
What I've noticed almost universally in every board is they seem to lack drive.
I used to wonder if this was due to the lack of area in the tip
So I tried the Captain Wade Goodall fin (all glass, very similar to AM but more tip and smaller rear) - loved it in pumping waves.
Hmm.
So today, Jordys (M) taken out of my P2 (the board and Jordys are like pease and carrots, replaced with AM1s.
I'm thinking overall the templates are pretty similar so should yield results that resemble one another.
Not so.
So bad - not engaged, less speed, poor highlining.
I really tried to figure out what was going on and TBH it just feels like the rear fin is not there, which really doesn't make sense, but I don't know how else to explain the feeling.
Now admittedly the surf was crap - stomach high with some chest high sets, windblown closeouts. But the Jordy felt so different and so much better, much more engaged at every moment. Despite being quite smaller.
YU is a shrunk AM.Most other popular templates are very different the the AM1
YUs?
Is it 2010?
Great fin BTW.