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- Thread starter GromsDad
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$250 to install a 240v outlet. Equipment is a cable that came w the car. So $250 over the course of about 2 years now, 3 charges a week. You’re an engineer, you do the math.
How far do you drive to office and back each day?
Or, how many miles a week?
Be honest.
Minimal. Maybe 50 miles a day total on average. It‘s why an ev is perfect for me.
My ability to avoid range issues has nothing to do with the fact that a 100% charge (which I never actually do) costs just $9 in my garage.
OK. If my math is right, it's about 9-10 cents a mile, compared to about 20 cents a mile (on a 25mpg ICE car at $5 a gallon).
Does that sound about right?
Does that sound about right?
My BIL has a Tesla and charges it overnight; where he lives electric rates are dirt cheap from midnight to 6AM. He says it's like $25/mo, I think he said he drives a little under 1000 miles a month. Road trips where you have to stop and charge cost way more, or so he reports. I think he said it costs him about $100 less per month to drive than his old Honda Element.
it will take decades you guys, DECADES
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BYD bets on largest sodium-ion battery factory as VW partner outs EV without lithium to end cold weather range anxiety
The world's largest electric car maker is betting big on sodium-ion batteries that will allow the launch of cheap mass market EVs that don't use lithium in their battery cells. It better, as the competition is already launching their first electric cars with sodium-ion battery.
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here come the engineering experts to weigh init will take decades you guys, DECADES
BYD bets on largest sodium-ion battery factory as VW partner outs EV without lithium to end cold weather range anxiety
The world's largest electric car maker is betting big on sodium-ion batteries that will allow the launch of cheap mass market EVs that don't use lithium in their battery cells. It better, as the competition is already launching their first electric cars with sodium-ion battery.
They're googling "sodium-ion mines" as we speak.
To be more precise, my range is stated to be 230 miles on a 100% charge with a 90kwWh battery. My electricity charge from midnight to 6 is .12 per kWh. So my full range cost is 90x.12, or $10.80. This is actually slightly higher than I thought bc my super off peak electricity rate went up from .09 to .12 this year.
At full range, my cost is 4.5 cents per mile. At a reduced range bc of heater use etc let’s call it 200 miles of range, or 5.4 cents/mile. I will say I’ve never done more than about an 80% charge and my typical recharge is from 20/30% back up to 90%.
The above is conditioned on me charging only between midnight and 6 am, which I do. Further, I’ve only charged at a commercial station once. Charging there is a lot more expensive.
So assuming 50 miles/day, 350 miles/week, 1400 miles/month, I pay about $70/month, or about the cost of 1 tank of gas At $5/gallon.
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Oh noes
cleantechnica.com
Harvard Spinoff Lobs Solid State Battery Bomb At Fossil Fuels
Expectations are high for a new solid state battery from Adden Energy, based on technology developed at Harvard University.
cleantechnica.com
The entire system. Not just the car charger. You’re a lawyer, don’t omit information necessary to do the math.
Even if I used solar I wouldn’t allocate those costs to charging my car unless I got it specifically for car charging, but even then I’d have to reduce out the benefit to the rest of my bill. And if I had solar I would charge for free during the day and not at 12 cents/kWh overnight.
I don’t have solar bc our roof has quirky exposure angles and the ROI isnt there, particularly since we’re not sure how much longer we’ll stay in our current home.
I drive an ev because I like it. I don’t suggest they’re for everyone right now, or pretend I’m saving the world. None of that changes the fact that it costs me just $70/month or so to fuel my car.
it will take decades you guys, DECADES
BYD bets on largest sodium-ion battery factory as VW partner outs EV without lithium to end cold weather range anxiety
The world's largest electric car maker is betting big on sodium-ion batteries that will allow the launch of cheap mass market EVs that don't use lithium in their battery cells. It better, as the competition is already launching their first electric cars with sodium-ion battery.
Like I said.
To make them cheap, glorified golf carts.
To make a larger car most people in the USA would want, it would cost $42k for the sodium-ion battery ALONE.
Add a decent size EV motor and all the usual bells, whistles and luxuries most want, and we're talking $$$$$.
Not this decade in the USA, at least.
Wrong. Again. You wanted a cheap battery that’s not lithium.
Like I said.
To make them cheap, glorified golf carts.
To make a larger car most people in the USA would want, it would cost $42k for the sodium-ion battery ALONE.
Add a decent size EV motor and all the usual bells, whistles and luxuries most want, and we're talking $$$$$.
Not this decade in the USA, at least.
Now you want a Ferrari for the price of Corolla.
You will never be satisfied because admitting that you're wrong hurts.
Cathode innovation makes sodium-ion battery an attractive option for electric vehicles
New cathode material for sodium-ion batteries is inspired by earlier work at Argonne that led to the lithium-ion batteries in the Chevy Volt and Bolt. It could help the supply of low-cost and abundant elements for electric vehicle batteries.