Catastrophic Sea Level Rise

GromsDad

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I try never to drive, defats the purpose of living across the street from the beach. I guess OC does not work in all swell and wind conditions:)
In this wind and swell combo if I drive to the opposite end of the island and it might be OK or drive down to Sea Isle where it will be small but offshore instead of side shore. There is a fun novelty wave in the inlet near my house that might have been good this morning and might work this afternoon. Easiest way to think of my area is as a 25 mile wide cove. Crystals in AC is the North tip so the beach faces more southward. On the other side of the giant cove is Sea Isle and Avalon which face much more North. Ocean City is kind of the center of the cove. If you're ever in Avalon drive to the end of 8th street and look across to the casinos of AC and you will see exactly what I mean.
 
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twinzerfan

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My family moved to Florida in the late 70s. There was no such thing as King Tides, or sunny day flooding. Now Miami is spending big money to install pumps

sections of big money Miami and Fort Lauderdale regularly flood with high tides, A1A in certain places floods monthly, there’s homes and campgrounds in the keys that flood regularly.

so yah, sea level rise is BS….
We live with this every day down here, but go on believing everything is fine.
 

hammies

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“The global average sea level has risen 8 to 9 inches, or 203-228 millimeters, since 1880…”

Who was measuring the global average sea level in 1880?
Meterology and oceanography have been around for a long time, and many if not most historical measurements were quite accurate. Accurate sea level measurements were made by harbormasters long before tide prediction became a thing in the late 1800s.
 

twinzerfan

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When I was living abroad and coming to visit, I would inevitably do the SoFlo drive for waves up A1A.

theres a stretch called the Hillsboro Mile - super luxo homes - and it gets so flooded that mullet swim in the streets. They’re now raising the street and seawall at who knows how much $$$
 

GromsDad

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My family moved to Florida in the late 70s. There was no such thing as King Tides, or sunny day flooding. Now Miami is spending big money to install pumps

sections of big money Miami and Fort Lauderdale regularly flood with high tides, A1A in certain places floods monthly, there’s homes and campgrounds in the keys that flood regularly.

so yah, sea level rise is BS….
We live with this every day down here, but go on believing everything is fine.
People were tougher back then. They didn't cry every time the water came up or have to think every weather and tidal phenomenon was the end of the world.
 

grapedrink

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My family moved to Florida in the late 70s. There was no such thing as King Tides, or sunny day flooding. Now Miami is spending big money to install pumps

now, sections of Miami regularly flood with high tides, A1A in certain places floods monthly, there’s homes and campgrounds in the keys that flood regularly.

so yah, sea level rise us BS.
We live with this every day down here, but go on believing everything is fine.
Sinking land that causes the sea level to be higher than where it used to be is not the same as rising sea levels worldwide. By that logic, someone in an area where sea level is decreased according to their landmarks would say the opposite, which would also be wrong. Many parts of the eastern seaboard have land subsidence issues because of excessive and irresponsible development, destruction of wetlands, etc. If we actually had sea level rise we would see the global average go up . . . . Which we haven't.

The changes are literally in the mm per year, and in some areas the trend is the opposite:
 
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twinzerfan

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People were tougher back then. They didn't cry every time the water came up or have to think every weather and tidal phenomenon was the end of the world.
uh yah right. It didn’t exist. But whatever…..

the US Navy begs to differ…

 

hal9000

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uh yah right. It didn’t exist. But whatever…..

the US Navy begs to differ…

US Navy, ACOE, shipping ports, insurance companies.......they'd all disagree with grossflab on this one.
 

twinzerfan

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US Navy, ACOE, shipping ports, insurance companies.......they'd all disagree with grossflab on this one.
as a contractor, we deal with FEMA requirements for building down here, specifically the finished floor elevation of new structures. Part of that is the flood insurance program.

as of today, new homes in flood prone areas have to be built 1ft higher than previously, and this isn’t just because of rainfall.

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this is in part driven by the insurance industry, not politics. I’m almost positive I have met very few lefty insurance brokers over the years…. Just saying
 

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as a contractor, we deal with FEMA requirements for building down here, specifically the finished floor elevation of new structures. Part of that is the flood insurance program.

as of today, new homes in flood prone areas have to be built 1ft higher than previously, and this isn’t just because of rainfall.
Nuh uh!
 

hal9000

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as a contractor, we deal with FEMA requirements for building down here, specifically the finished floor elevation of new structures. Part of that is the flood insurance program.

as of today, new homes in flood prone areas have to be built 1ft higher than previously, and this isn’t just because of rainfall.
the "BUHHHH it's not sea-level rise, the coastline is sinking" people will be here momentarily
 
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grapedrink

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as a contractor, we deal with FEMA requirements for building down here, specifically the finished floor elevation of new structures. Part of that is the flood insurance program.

as of today, new homes in flood prone areas have to be built 1ft higher than previously, and this isn’t just because of rainfall.
A whole 1 foot? Doesn't sound like they are too concerned.

See the NOAA data above.
 

twinzerfan

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Here’s the building code section:


You’ll notice it talks about wave action. That doesn’t happen when it rains. Well it does rain in a hurricane….

so take your pick, either the ocean is indeed rising, or storms are getting worse as a result of warmer oceans…. It certainly isn’t because the surf is getting better