Is Herd Immunity Still A Thing?

[GromsDad]

Is Herd Immunity Still A Thing?

I distinctly remember members here speaking about Herd Immunity. How about now? Thoughts today on herd immunity:

 

[grapedrink]

No. The goalposts will keep moving until 99% of the population has had 47 booster shots.

 

[StuAzole]

No. It's endemic at this point.

 

[sirfun]

Is Herd Immunity Still A Thing?

I distinctly remember members here speaking about Herd Immunity. How about now? Thoughts today on herd immunity:

Trump Says With ‘A Herd Mentality’ Covid-19 Coronavirus Will Go Away

During an ABC News town hall in Pennsylvania with George Stephanopoulos, he continued to insist that the SARS-CoV2 will disappear, even without a vaccine.

www.forbes.com

 

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

 

[hal9000]

Probably not.

Just like the Spanish (aka American) flu, we will never achieve herd immunity and this thing is with us pretty much forever.

 

[sirfun]

No. The goalposts will keep moving until 99% of the population has had 47 booster shots.

A man in India says he's been injected with 12 COVID vaccines. He wants more shots.

An man in India says he has received up to 12 coronavirus vaccine doses and believes the shots have helped with his backaches and other health issues, according to multiple reports. Brahmdeo Mandal, a retired postman from the Indian state of Bihar, says he received nine of the shots he...

news.google.com

 

[ghost_of_lewis_samuels]

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anyway. yes, - herd immunity is a thing, but we are a the point prior to herd immunity , where lots of people get sick.

 

[hammies]

I think the fact that the unvaccinated are way, way more likely to get very sick and/or die than the vaccinated is no longer debatable.

What I worry about is that given Covid's propensity to mutate, it comes up with a variant of itself that is as transmissable as Omicron but very deadly.

 

[Your Moms Dildo]

Healthcare workers with covid can still go to work...CDC science at again.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/covid-positive-nurses-hospitals-bidens-100122169.html

 

[Autoprax]

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Change evil to stupid and the meme will work.

 

[grapedrink]

Yet

Probably not.

Just like the Spanish (aka American) flu, we will never achieve herd immunity and this thing is with us pretty much forever.

How many years did people wear masks after the Spanish flu?

 

[grapedrink]

I think the fact that the unvaccinated are way, way more likely to get very sick and/or die than the vaccinated is no longer debatable.

What I worry about is that given Covid's propensity to mutate, it comes up with a variant of itself that is as transmissable as Omicron but very deadly.

From what I understand, viruses tend to evolve to become more contagious but less deadly. Ultra contagious and ultra deadly is not a viable survival strategy.

Full disclaimer: In case you didn't know already, I'm 100% Mongoloid and have no actual experience in this line of work.

 

[GromsDad]

Probably not.

Just like the Spanish (aka American) flu, we will never achieve herd immunity and this thing is with us pretty much forever.

A search of your forum posts using herd immunity in the search criterium might prove interesting.

 

[hal9000]

A search of your forum posts using herd immunity in the search criterium might prove interesting.

Nothing I've said in this thread is inconsistent with anything I've said in the past. Keep trying, though.

 

[StuAzole]

why did Trump push herd immunity so hard?

The Trump Administration Goes All In On Herd Immunity

Secretary Azar testified before Congress that “herd immunity is not the strategy of the U.S. government.” Yet, frequently the Trump Administration’s rhetoric tells a different story. The Administration’s recent actions on the ground belie its claims of not advancing a herd immunity policy.

www.forbes.com

 

[GromsDad]

why did Trump push herd immunity so hard?

The Trump Administration Goes All In On Herd Immunity

Secretary Azar testified before Congress that “herd immunity is not the strategy of the U.S. government.” Yet, frequently the Trump Administration’s rhetoric tells a different story. The Administration’s recent actions on the ground belie its claims of not advancing a herd immunity policy.

www.forbes.com

You're mistakenly thinking I am or was opposed to the idea of Herd Immunity.

 

[hal9000]

why did Trump push herd immunity so hard?

The Trump Administration Goes All In On Herd Immunity

Secretary Azar testified before Congress that “herd immunity is not the strategy of the U.S. government.” Yet, frequently the Trump Administration’s rhetoric tells a different story. The Administration’s recent actions on the ground belie its claims of not advancing a herd immunity policy.

www.forbes.com

you probably just made the blocked user list with that one.

You're mistakenly thinking I am or was opposed to the idea of Herd Immunity.

problem is:

1. herd immunity has never been achieved through natural means.

2. the preponderance of the scientific data is teaching us that we probably won't reach herd immunity even with vaccines because the virus mutates and because too few people got the shot quickly enough to beat down the virus.

So, I guess we're stuck with the covid just like we're stuck with the Spanish (aka American) flu at least for the remainder of Homo sapiens' time here on earth. The good news is that it probably won't be too much longer in the grand scheme of earth at the rate we're going.

 

[Autoprax]

I think the original idea was pushed was that we let it burn through the population and the species would adapt.

This idea was poo-pooed because of all the carnage it would create.

Now that the omicron is much more transmissible that is going to happen whether we like it our not. Mitigation won't work at this point.

Luckily for humans it's not as deadly.

All the steps that people were loosing their sh!t about were to mitigate carnage.

It seems that some people don't mind carnage if they don't think they are are going to be the carnage in the Covid Supreme carnage asada burrito.

 

[Driftcoast]

Wouldn't it be the unborn kids who would be evolving to immunity while adults just have hope their immune system catches up and stays alert?