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No argument here. But that doesn’t mean you as a homeowner can’t do your part. While the loss of property in the last Malibu fire was in no way chill, wtf. $15k gets you a dank home suppression set up (hoses, pump, and retardant) that works even better if you have a swimming pool...Different colored ribbons indicate different things. Some indicate a predesignated escape route in case conditions go to sh!t. Some indicate trees or brush that need to be cleared. Some are to signal down, charged power lines. Some are just bread crumbs to let other members of a crew know how to follow the scouts into a working area. Different crews use different colored flagging tape for different reasons.
Newsom set aside $2B for fire emergencies this year, but it probably won't be enough.
As far as prescribed burns, it's a political hot potato. Both sides of the argument have very valid points, leading to a stalemate. Particularly in highly populated areas like Laguna, Pacific Palisades, Malibu, Ventura, Santa Barbara, etc. the chance of a prescribed fire slopping over the fire break are not worth the risk. Especially with the unkowns, like "urban campers" or whatever the current PC term is this week. The Incident Commanders can be held civilly accountable for accidental loss or mistakes, so no one in the fire service will touch this type of project for fear of potential lawsuit.
As far as brush clearance goes, it's an insurmountable task. 100 years of accumulated under brush across the state (not to mention, bark beetle die off) has created so much unburned fuel, the cost and man hours to bring in under control are unimaginable. Consequently, the answer ends up to be, do nothing.
The drought contributes to the problem, but even in wet years, the moisture creates more growth that dries in the summer. Adding to the fuel load.
I could talk your ear off about all of these issues, but that's the Reader's Digest version.
You really sounded like you know what you’re talking about in your previous posts so I’m surprised you didn’t know that those systems are primarily for dousing your home and the surrounding vegetation/brush with retardant in advance.HAHAHAHAHA!
Yeah, sprinklering your property to protect against wildfire? Good luck with that. I've watched 250 gal/min fire streams evaporate from the heat of the head of a fire before the water even touches the flame.
How about fires that burn so hot that they ignite the paint on a hydrant, so that when you locate a hydrant and attempt to connect to the hydrant to establish a water supply, you can't because your water supply is on fire!!!!
Strange days indeed. Doesn't look like it'll get better any time soon.
Yep. I know about them. They are hit and miss. The photo examples you showed are the success stories.You really sounded like you know what you’re talking about in your previous so I’m surprised you didn’t know that those systems are primarily for dousing your home, etc with retardant.
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Maybe some dedicates satellites? The economic cost of fires is so high, might it not be cost effective? But then, if a major part of the problem is a century of fire suppression creating an overabundance of fuel....Seems like they could put IR cameras with a 360 degree field of view and wide elevation beamwidth and create an early warning system. I suppose many of the canyons are too steep for this to work. Balloons could work too, like the Beast of Kandahar.
I moved last year just before the 3rd fire in 4 years. This time, it burned part of my neighborhood. There is no political will to solve this problem.
We already have VIIRS (Aqua/Terra). The satellites aren't persistent enough. Somethign like this would work and have 100% station-time:Maybe some dedicates satellites?
There are solutions, but too many political factions to using them.The economic cost of fires is so high, might it not be cost effective? But then, if a major part of the problem is a century of fire suppression creating an overabundance of fuel....
I'm guessing what you describe is happening in coniferous forests. I wonder if the oak/sycamore coastal chapparal fires get that hot?HAHAHAHAHA!
Yeah, sprinklering your property to protect against wildfire? Good luck with that. I've watched 250 gal/min fire streams evaporate from the heat of the head of a fire before the water even touches the flame.
How about fires that burn so hot that they ignite the paint on a hydrant, so that when you locate a hydrant and attempt to connect to the hydrant to establish a water supply, you can't because your water supply is on fire!!!!
Strange days indeed. Doesn't look like it'll get better any time soon.
And even if it didn’t work you at least fucking tried. Better than leaving it up to chance.Yep. I know about them. They are hit and miss. The photo examples you showed are the success stories.
Yep, that's in the works. UCSD is establishing a network of cameras across the west for exactly that purpose. I know some guys working on the project. It's working so far, but it is a multi-year endeavor and continually evolving.Seems like they could put IR cameras with a 360 degree field of view and wide elevation beamwidth and create an early warning system. I suppose many of the canyons are too steep for this to work. Balloons could work too, like the Beast of Kandahar.
I moved last year just before the 3rd fire in 4 years. This time, it burned part of my neighborhood. There is no political will to solve this problem.
I won't disagree with that.And even if it didn’t work you at least fucking tried. Better than leaving it up to chance.
And for how many Pt. Dume, etc residents was $15k chump change?I won't disagree with that.
A quick perusal makes me think it's better to be in a valley than on the slope of a hill.
This problem is not technically-challenging. It has been solved a long time ago for defense applications. It doesn't need multiple years if we have the political will to solve it fast.Yep, that's in the works. UCSD is establishing a network of cameras across the west for exactly that purpose. I know some guys working on the project. It's working so far, but it is a multi-year endeavor and continually evolving.
It's mostly financial and logistic. Having the funds and the manpower to set up the towers and cameras. So far, it works pretty well.This problem is not technically-challenging. It has been solved a long time ago for defense applications. It doesn't need multiple years if we have the political will to solve it fast.
The only sure things in life are death and taxes. But those pics sure are good advertising as far as I’m concerned.Yep. I know about them. They are hit and miss. The photo examples you showed are the success stories.
Some of the fires over the passed several years have burned so hot, that no amount of fire protection and all of the firefighters in the world can suppress or extinguish.
And these types of fire conditions will continue to deteriorate.