Is this how you treat a member of the armed forces during a routine traffic stop?

Sharkbiscuit

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Kind of hard to unbuckle seatbelt while being screamed at to keep your hands up at gunpoint. Which order should he of listened to, get out of car or hands up?
Deliberately reach hand out of open window, open door from the outside, push door open with left leg, state which hand you are reaching for your seatbelt, unbuckle seat belt, move empty hand back to perfect line of sight before moving, then, exit vehicle.

The police are pulling over a murdered out SUV with unsee-able through tint at night. They don't know who the f--k you are. Try to empathize with their fear of the unknown, just a little bit.

Everyone thinks they're an alpha male. Leonardo DiCaprio is an alpha male. If you're not f-------g fresh 22-25 year olds your entire life, you're not an alpha male. You're a beta provider, your wife is a pair of shoes you refused to buy from taking your kids and half your sh!t, and you have to work for money, doing what your boss or your customers tell you to do. Drop the fucking tough guy act, and accept that you're probably a modern era pussy with multiple social media profiles and no harem, and you've never killed another man to get one nut in his partner and then bail.

edit: mundus this is rhetorical 'you', not you, mundus.

"Nobody tells me what to do" - these people get told to stop living on a daily basis.
 

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Kind of hard to unbuckle seatbelt while being screamed at to keep your hands up at gunpoint. Which order should he of listened to, get out of car or hands up?
It puts it's hands up.

It informs the officer that It is going to unbuckle the seatbelt, in order to comply with the officers requests.

It uses the opposite hand, while keeping the one directly above the seatbelt buckle up high, to VERY SLOWLY reach across Its body and VERY SLOWLY unbuckle the seatbelt.

It pulls the seatbelt buckle across Its body, all the while maintaining the other hand high.

It informs the officer It is going to open the car door, and proceed to get out.

It uses the "stickshift hand" to VERY SLOWLY reach across its body and open the car door, if at all possible using the outside door latch.

It slowly gets out of the car, and asks the officer if they want feet, knees, or face onto the ground.

The ENTIRE TIME REACHING FOR THE CLOUDS!!!

Don't ask me how I know the routine, but if you follow it to a T, you should be o.k. For the most part.
 

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"White supremacy" is unhelpful slanting if one is serious about addressing the race problem.
Here is a white supremacist, elected by white supremacists, virtue signaling his white supremacist views in broad daylight
 

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Deliberately reach hand out of open window, open door from the outside, push door open with left leg, state which hand you are reaching for your seatbelt, unbuckle seat belt, move empty hand back to perfect line of sight before moving, then, exit vehicle.

The police are pulling over a murdered out SUV with unsee-able through tint at night. They don't know who the f--k you are. Try to empathize with their fear of the unknown, just a little bit.

Everyone thinks they're an alpha male. Leonardo DiCaprio is an alpha male. If you're not f-------g fresh 22-25 year olds your entire life, you're not an alpha male. You're a beta provider, your wife is a pair of shoes you refused to buy from taking your kids and half your sh!t, and you have to work for money, doing what your boss or your customers tell you to do. Drop the fucking tough guy act, and accept that you're probably a modern era pussy with multiple social media profiles and no harem, and you've never killed another man to get one nut in his partner and then bail.

edit: mundus this is rhetorical 'you', not you, mundus.

"Nobody tells me what to do" - these people get told to stop living on a daily basis.
Putting it all on the scared civilian held at gunpoint over minor Traffic violation which was false. The guy was in no way acting like a tough guy, your point does not fit in this case.
 

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Putting it all on the scared civilian held at gunpoint over minor Traffic violation which was false. The guy was in no way acting like a tough guy, your point does not fit in this case.
The guy wasn't getting the fuck out of the car as peacefully and cooperatively as possible; my point fits in this case even if the motivation wasn't being a tough guy.

There are two simple choices.

1. Do what you're told by the cops (and your teachers and firefighters and military personnel while trespassing on base at Mayport to hide behind the jetty for groomed peaks).

2. Do not complain.
 

mundus

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The guy wasn't getting the fook out of the car as peacefully and cooperatively as possible; my point fits in this case even if the motivation wasn't being a tough guy.

There are two simple choices.

1. Do what you're told by the cops (and your teachers and firefighters and military personnel while trespassing on base at Mayport to hide behind the jetty for groomed peaks).

2. Do not complain.
You are way off base here. I know all the keyboard legends here would know exactly what do while having conflicting orders screamed at them under gunpoint and pepper sprayed but it is a little different in real life. Civilians have to act completely perfect while zero standards for LE, sounds like freedom to me.
 
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The only reason a bunch of BS charges were not filed on the guy is because the cops knew they fooked up big on camera, yet badge bunnies still defend.
 

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Putting it all on the scared civilian held at gunpoint over minor Traffic violation which was false. The guy was in no way acting like a tough guy, your point does not fit in this case.
A Lt. in the army is not a civilian. A Lt. in the army went to OCS where the government (us) spends a bunch of money (ours) to train individuals how to give and receive direct orders. The Lt. fvcked up, add a shitbag cop in the mix - front page news.
 
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Sometimes a Black man is trying as hard as he can to not get shot, and the Police shoot him. Sometimes a Black man just gives up, after decades of experiencing individual and institutional racism, and the Police shoot him
 
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A Lt. in the army is not a civilian. A Lt. in the army went to OCS where the government (us) spends a bunch of money (ours) to train individuals how to give and receive direct orders. The Lt. fvcked up, add a shitbag cop in the mix - front page news.
True enough, my mistake, but this one is all on the shitbag cops
 

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Do you agree it happens more to minorities? Also the libertarian grasping at straws to excuse the actions of armed Govt thugs, never gets old.
It happens more to minorities because most of the time ghetto towns have high populations of minorities. Go to a white ghetto like Oroville, CA or somewhere in Appalachia and you'll see exactly what you're describing happening to whites

And get it straight, this isn't excusing the actions of armed government thugs, this is bringing a much needed dose of reality to bubble-living white saviors that think they know anything about life outside of suburbs
 
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Sometimes a Black man is trying as hard as he can to not get shot, and the Police shoot him. Sometimes a Black man just gives up, after decades of experiencing individual and institutional racism, and the Police shoot him
Sometimes it rains...
 

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As soon as they guy got to well lit area the cops saw they made a mistake, how about just run the temp plate and be done with it. These 2 scumbags decided to teach the guy a lesson and flex because they could and god knows how many times they have done this and got away with it?
 
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It happens more to minorities because most of the time ghetto towns have high populations of minorities. Go to a white ghetto like Oroville, CA or somewhere in Appalachia and you'll see exactly what you're describing happening to whites

And get it straight, this isn't excusing the actions of armed government thugs, this is bringing a much needed dose of reality to bubble-living white saviors that think they know anything about life outside of suburbs
LOL. The Badge Bunny libertarian, cannot make it up,
 
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