Did William B. Taylor just end Trumby's presidumbcy?

One-Off

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not going to change GOPTard's mind
This. The Republicans can never turn on Trump because it would be an admission of their lack of judgement the last 3+ years. Not going to happen. More likely they will go with the "Quid pro quo? Everybody does it" argument.
 

Surfdog

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Mainly because Surfdog has no reading comprehension skills.
Mainly because we haven't heard any cross examination of his testimony?

There's the minor detail that this aid money (actually an already approved purchase) was going to Ukraine no matter what happened in this phone call. It's going to be a matter if it was delayed somewhat due to other factors, or not. They were getting this aid money no matter what. This is NOT a pay for play, or no deal, like deal the Bidens were involved in with the previous Ukraine government.

The quid pro quo issue is going to be kind of tough to prove if the aid money that was already approved on a purchase of Javelin missiles was a dangling carrot for supposed help on investigating Hunter Biden's 2015-2016 activity and Joe's potential relevance to it.

The linkage of Hunter's/Joe past activity to interfering with present/future campaigning is going to be interesting in a court setting. Do candidates get a pass on recent past potential criminal activity, just because they're now running for office? Wouldn't the public and fed guv want to know past potential shady activity of someone they might be voting for in the future?

That's going to be up to a judiciary committee and judges to decide.

This is going to get juicy if it comes down to all this. I say bring it on already. Trump or Biden or both could go down in all this.

We need light shed on it all.
 
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studog

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This. The Republicans can never turn on Trump because it would be an admission of their lack of judgement the last 3+ years. Not going to happen. More likely they will go with the "Quid pro quo? Everybody does it" argument.
least it will be fun hanging the scarlet letter on GOPTards post Trump and tell them every time they try to bring up ethics & morality to STFU

 

Surfdog

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Funny thing is in all this, is that even if Trump is impeached in the House, and the Senate doesn't, Trump can continue running for 2020 and potentially win.

If there's enough angst ginned up in all this over a minor non-high crimes and misdemeanors revenge type charge, it could cause many battleground states/Congressional seats to swing back to Red or worse for Dems. And it becomes a rout in 2020.

Cheer this revenge on more Dems. It will surely do wonders for prospects 2020, especially since you got basically nada in the prez candidate column (at this point).
 

hal9000

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Mainly because we haven't heard any cross examination of his testimony?

There's the minor detail that this aid money (actually an already approved purchase) was going to Ukraine no matter what happened in this phone call. It's going to be a matter if it was delayed somewhat due to other factors, or not. They were getting this aid money no matter what. This is NOT a pay for play, or no deal, like deal the Bidens were involved in with the previous Ukraine government.

The quid pro quo issue is going to be kind of tough to prove if the aid money that was already approved on a purchase of Javelin missiles was a dangling carrot for supposed help on investigating Hunter Biden's 2015-2016 activity and Joe's potential relevance to it.

The linkage of Hunter's/Joe past activity to interfering with present/future campaigning is going to be interesting in a court setting. Do candidates get a pass on recent past potential criminal activity, just because they're now running for office? Wouldn't the public and fed guv want to know past potential shady activity of someone they might be voting for in the future?

That's going to be up to a judiciary committee and judges to decide.

This is going to get juicy if it comes down to all this. I say bring it on already. Trump or Biden or both could go down in all this.

We need light shed on it all.
Which subreddit did you copy that from?