I'm front footed as well. Ive been playing musical boards for the past 25 years like most of us. The past 5-6 years Ive always had a lost SS2 double wing swallow as my go to. I prefer it as a quad, being tall and lanky plus front footed, I feel like quad set ups are mandatory. If youre looking at Roberts boards, the original Punter was a favorite of mine.
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- Thread starter Dekerwild
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Can someone please explain to me how they are front footed?
I'd love to know how a person turns a board off their front foot.
I'd love to know how a person turns a board off their front foot.
They don't. They/I/we drive more dominantly off of our front foot when pumping and drivingcasa_mugrienta said:
down the line, then shift weight back (although maybe not as dominantly as a "rear-foot driver")
when cranking turns. IMO
In that case how does a person drive (I'm assuming you're talking about gaining speed) on a surfboard off their rear foot?Oceanslide said:
I don't get this logic. Everyone is both footed. Where you get your speed is going to be highly dependent on the type of wave and what the wave is doing at that moment. Period. There's no other way around it.
I think you may be surfing boards that are too short for being a front footed surfer. You need more rail length to drive and generate speed because the fin cluster is being disengaged a bit. You’d probably like a board that is your height or 2”shorter than you but with the volume you are accustomed too. Then you’d have more rail, and flatter rocker to drive.ChaseTMP said:
The problem is today’s boards that are that size, the volume would be way out of wack for you and probably too wide.
I think you need to go back to customs.
Everyone is both footed but certain ppl tend to put too much weight on their front foot at times and also not get back far enough on their turns. I've been one of those at several points in my life. For example I find that if I get stuck just behind a section mid bottom turn my mind wants to pressure the front foot like I wld if I was up on the face. (Front side problem only) If I do this I tend to bog hard -- gotta drive off the fin cluster there. Similarly there are times when I standup, my stance is kind of narrow (happens if I get in early but dont pause for a split second before standing) and then I bottom turn and go to do a cut back and have to really nurse it bc I can feel the front rail catching a bit. In terms of what board works...
Ive loved alot of boards that are front foot friendly per this thread (lost sub scorcher and RNF) but also others that I think are not. (Chili CN curve, JS combat model... 2 boards I LOVED back in the day) Interestingly I also never really liked Roberts White Diamond which apparently is a front foot friendly board. Having digested this thread I wonder if I wld like my stamps Grinder X with a slight V compared to flat which is what I think it has. (I like that board alot, super fast, but I tend to love v in tail, feels more stable on rail to me and I wonder if I wld like it more if it kind of sat down a bit more in the tail)
Ive loved alot of boards that are front foot friendly per this thread (lost sub scorcher and RNF) but also others that I think are not. (Chili CN curve, JS combat model... 2 boards I LOVED back in the day) Interestingly I also never really liked Roberts White Diamond which apparently is a front foot friendly board. Having digested this thread I wonder if I wld like my stamps Grinder X with a slight V compared to flat which is what I think it has. (I like that board alot, super fast, but I tend to love v in tail, feels more stable on rail to me and I wonder if I wld like it more if it kind of sat down a bit more in the tail)
I was able to get the answer on the OG Flyer being front foot friendly; apparently not for me. A manager at my local shop (E.T. Surf, thanks Daniel!) lent me his Spinetek 5'10 OG Flyer.
I know within three waves if a board is worth more time (changing fins etc.) and the Flyer was feeling similar to the other three boards I've recently had issues with.
As front footed, I'll echo other's statements in that I'm only talking about driving/generating speed. Of course turning off your front (weight on your front) foot won't work.
Dane Reynolds is probably the highest profile surfer that generates speed this way, when he has to create speed quickly on his forehand and the wave is not doing that much work.
For me, I can make most boards work backside, since it's inherent to have your weight more evenly distributed (more toward the tail), since you're not going to drive off your heel. Where the issue resides for me is frontside and needing to get up to speed quickly in short beachbreak waves, most of my weight is on my front toes/ball of my foot. I readjust my weight to by back foot to bottom turn or to hit the lip/oncoming section.
So yes, everyone is both footed, but there is a select few of us that generate speed on our forehands differently than most. It's more of an issue to find the right board, but I'm usually one of the faster surfers in the water at my local beach and it could be attributed to my front-footedness.
I'm not sure that length plays to much a part of what I like in a board. One of my favorite boards was a 5'7 Haydenshapes Psychedelic Germ and I'm 6'0 175 lbs.
One of my good friends, Matt Calvani (Becker, now Bing) has made me around 60 boards and there was only a couple that didn't work for me over 20 years. With Bing, he definitely is more in the retro camp and that's why I've started getting boards OTR as I'm still trying to keep up with the groms even though I'm almost 47. I think since Matt and I used to surf together a lot (before he relocated to Leucadia/Encinitas) he had a good feel for what worked for me. I'm finally getting around to Matt making me a board, a pin tail twin based on Josh Kerr's winning board from the Maldives contest.
I've been buying boards OTR for a few years now and this is only a recent phenomenon for me getting boards that I can't get down the line quickly on my forehand. I grabbed a Haydenshapes Untitled (Awayco) today that someone mentioned worked well for them. Unfortunately the only Sub Scorcher II at E.T. was a little too beefy for me. That's still on my must try list.
The search continues FMW (wallet)...
I know within three waves if a board is worth more time (changing fins etc.) and the Flyer was feeling similar to the other three boards I've recently had issues with.
As front footed, I'll echo other's statements in that I'm only talking about driving/generating speed. Of course turning off your front (weight on your front) foot won't work.
Dane Reynolds is probably the highest profile surfer that generates speed this way, when he has to create speed quickly on his forehand and the wave is not doing that much work.
For me, I can make most boards work backside, since it's inherent to have your weight more evenly distributed (more toward the tail), since you're not going to drive off your heel. Where the issue resides for me is frontside and needing to get up to speed quickly in short beachbreak waves, most of my weight is on my front toes/ball of my foot. I readjust my weight to by back foot to bottom turn or to hit the lip/oncoming section.
So yes, everyone is both footed, but there is a select few of us that generate speed on our forehands differently than most. It's more of an issue to find the right board, but I'm usually one of the faster surfers in the water at my local beach and it could be attributed to my front-footedness.
I'm not sure that length plays to much a part of what I like in a board. One of my favorite boards was a 5'7 Haydenshapes Psychedelic Germ and I'm 6'0 175 lbs.
One of my good friends, Matt Calvani (Becker, now Bing) has made me around 60 boards and there was only a couple that didn't work for me over 20 years. With Bing, he definitely is more in the retro camp and that's why I've started getting boards OTR as I'm still trying to keep up with the groms even though I'm almost 47. I think since Matt and I used to surf together a lot (before he relocated to Leucadia/Encinitas) he had a good feel for what worked for me. I'm finally getting around to Matt making me a board, a pin tail twin based on Josh Kerr's winning board from the Maldives contest.
I've been buying boards OTR for a few years now and this is only a recent phenomenon for me getting boards that I can't get down the line quickly on my forehand. I grabbed a Haydenshapes Untitled (Awayco) today that someone mentioned worked well for them. Unfortunately the only Sub Scorcher II at E.T. was a little too beefy for me. That's still on my must try list.
The search continues FMW (wallet)...
ci black and white? whatever dane rides. get a stamps gx dane file. its a gx with lower entry rocker.ChaseTMP said:
Yeah, the B&W was on my radar. I'm kinda locked-in with my local shop as they've been helping me out with not losing too much money on the duds. I'd have to go with the actual CI board and they didn't have my size in yesterday. The Sampler is on the list as well. I'll reach out to the CI rep who's a friend of a friend and see if I can borrow one of those two if he has them as personal boards, since he's my same size.
Awayco may also have a Sampler for you to try..... they did in my area.
Sampler was a good board, but was a bit bulky for me. If you are able to demo one and find the same, you can custom order a more refined version from Stamps like havoc said.
Sampler was a good board, but was a bit bulky for me. If you are able to demo one and find the same, you can custom order a more refined version from Stamps like havoc said.
