Uh, no. If by "long standing guideline", you mean the Bible, your are comically wrong.
REMINDER: THE ARENA PLATFORM, INC. has no obligation to monitor the Forums. However, THE ARENA PLATFORM, INC. reserves the right to review any materials submitted to or posted on the Forums, and remove, delete, redact or otherwise modify such materials, in its sole discretion and for any reason whatsoever, at any time and from time to time, without notice or further obligation to you. THE ARENA PLATFORM, INC. has no obligation to display or post any materials provided by you. THE ARENA PLATFORM, INC. reserves the right to disclose, at any time and from time to time, any information or materials that we deem necessary or appropriate to satisfy any applicable law, regulation, contract obligation, legal or dispute process or government request. Click on the following hyperlinks to further read the applicable Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.
Why is porn so important to wokesters and your children?
- Thread starter deepwater
- Start date
Genesis was 1000's of years BEFORE Jesus. (Old Testament/New Testament)
Old Testament stories were filled with plenty of debauchery and sketchy behavior. World was still sparsely populated, and family survival was a priority, with bit of incest and cousin blending highly probable. They didn't know about genetics. In the early Genesis period, not long after Adam/Eve, people lived for many 100's of years, supposedly. Some angels were cast down and messed with a few mortals, and all kinds of crazy sh*t went down. Stories in Ezekiel are out there (UFO sightings?)
The world was still a very unpopulated place, and most, other than the few royals that ruled over majorities, were living dirt poor and larger families meant more cheap labor to farm and re-produce. Not much of a middle class, unless you got lucky with farming, ag, or had a highly valuable skill many needed, but didn't have.
New Testament was about Jesus being born and what happened to him after, until his death/resurrection and the impending Revelation at some time after.
Many know this stuff, but more and more don't. It's all stories to most now, with little historical relevance.
Same as everyone, intuition, whatever moral framework we grow up with, and then, hopefully, at some point of maturity we apply our own reasoning.
Again, what is the standard moral guideline?
Or does everyone/anyone choose what they think it should be?
Last edited:
Where do you think that "moral framework" came from or was based on originally, passed on from many generations past?
What do you mean?
We all know what it is.
Do you think people who never read the Bible are amoral?
NEVER SAID "people who never read the Bible are amoral". That's you again doing your usual spin and projection.
Why should someone NOT take something from someone that has obvious plenty?
How are they going to miss it? How is it wrong if you can justify it by saying you're _______ (fill in the blank).
We see it all the time now, with people just walking in and walking out with whatever they feel they need.
Some could justify that saying their needs outweigh their right to live by some set of "morals".
Where doe the rule or law originally come from that says that's not right?
People justify all kinds of bad behavior that takes, harms or infringes on others.
Who has the right to say they're wrong?
There are almost 8 billion people on this planet and vast majority of them have never seen the Bible or know anything about christianity.
You don't think ethos existed before the Bible?
Again, as I said earlier, a vast majority of the world's cultures have religions with ancient books basically preaching the same teachings/lessons of the Christian Bible (more or less). Do I have to list all the worlds religions to you?There are almost 8 billion people on this planet and vast majority of them have never seen the Bible or know anything about christianity.
You don't think ethos existed before the Bible?
Ever here of the Tipitaka? Just one non-Christian example of their version of the Bible.
The Vida? The Quran? I could go on.
Billions of people use these books/teachings/lessons as moral guidelines for their daily lives.
Again, what does the Atheist have as moral guideline passed down generation to generation?
I really would like to add it to my list.
It's fascinating when you put into perspective.
Part 1, the history and spiritual world of the cradle of civilization
Part 2, the story that defined Western civilization and later influenced the entire planet.
Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant, it's one of the most important texts in the history of the world, if the not the most important.
It's quite an interesting question.There are almost 8 billion people on this planet and vast majority of them have never seen the Bible or know anything about christianity.
You don't think ethos existed before the Bible?
I don't think you need a religious text to be moral.
On the flip side, morality is at heart a complex philosophical exercise requiring higher level thinking most children and young people and many adults are incapable of working through.
For a large segment of the population culture guides their morality. And religion influences culture...
So it's quite difficult to say religion does not play a role in morality (if we're being honest).
Chimps and Bonobos are capable of displaing empathy, fairness, altruism, grief, and guilt. When did apes go to church?
Hundreds of religions all make that same claim for their own rules, and they can’t all be right, so that’s not any path to objectivity.
Obviously, Christians want to believe that the Bible offers objective moral rules, but such blind faith does not make it true. At most, such faith can make it true for them, but that relativity is the opposite of objectivity. Objectivity cannot depend on who you are, or what faith commitment you have made.
Again, Christians comprise only 30% of world's population.
Hundreds of religions all make that same claim for their own rules, and they can’t all be right, so that’s not any path to objectivity.
Obviously, Christians want to believe that the Bible offers objective moral rules, but such blind faith does not make it true. At most, such faith can make it true for them, but that relativity is the opposite of objectivity. Objectivity cannot depend on who you are, or what faith commitment you have made.
Again, Christians comprise only 30% of world's population.
The Bible certainly plays a role, for Christians.
They obviously need a book of myths to tell them that murder is wrong.
That's just before they launch a war in which they will kill hundreds of thousands.
Again, I wasn't singling out Christianity by any means.
Chimps and Bonobos don't have all the emotional baggage humans collect and carry with each new generation.
We all need to Devo. Then the world will be a MUCH better place.