Why do people enjoy living downtown in big cities?

Pescado713

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I never thought I'd want to live in a really dense urban area. Ocean or mountains all the way for me. Then I lived in Tokyo. It was incredible. There's tradeoffs to everything and eventually I'd miss not having daily access to the coast or mountains but day to day quality of life was so good. It definitely took some getting used to though.

Walk or ride mass transit everywhere. Subways and busses there are clean and convenient. Great food of all kinds. Always something interesting going -- art, music, festivals, etc. Skiing is a shinkasen ride away. Easy weekend trip or even a day trip. Surf near Tokyo isn't great but it exists. Better surf and nicer beaches a train ride away for the weekend. Yen was weak so everything was cheap compared to CA.

I was fortunate enough to live in nice apartments/areas there. I might have felt differently in we weren't that lucky.
Tokyo is epic but Hong Kong is not close behind although the vibe is completely different, not to name drop but the HK Ritz Carlton before they closed it was one of my all time sensory experiences. Large-breasted Brit expat girls looking for lots of fun...hkkkkk.jpg
 
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StuAzole

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The great cities of the world are magnets for creativity, talent, and ideas. People who's brains are full of these flock to NY, London, Sydney, Berlin, Hong Kong, and other cities like that.
The rest move to Gilbert, Arizona and the like.
 

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Tokyo is epic but Hong Kong is not close behind although the vibe is completely different, not to name drop but the HK Ritz Carlton before they closed it was one of my all time sensory experiences. Large-breasted Brit expat girls looking for lots of fun...View attachment 186172
Didn't king kong go to hong kong to play ping pong on his ding dong?
 

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Instead most other major cities are filled with trash.

Blew me out when I went to both the states and UK how disgustingly filthy the cities were. And the homeless people everywhere. And that was 20-30 years ago.

Now Australia has homeless people too, it's not as shocking to me.

General quality of life seemed really low to me- but I'm sure that would not be the case if you had a high income.

All these creative, talented, rich people: they live in their own bubbles- the average Joe is not hanging out with them.
 

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Blew me out when I went to both the states and UK how disgustingly filthy the cities were. And the homeless people everywhere. And that was 20-30 years ago.

Now Australia has homeless people too, it's not as shocking to me.

General quality of life seemed really low to me- but I'm sure that would not be the case if you had a high income.

All these creative, talented, rich people: they live in their own bubbles- the average Joe is not hanging out with them.
Agree 100%

It's so embarrassing.

Having seen a decent part of OZ at this point from Brisbane down to Melbourne makes the USA and much of Europe look like a bunch of pigs live there.

If you saw how bad the homeless "lifestyle choice" problem is from Seattle to San Diego now, in person, you'd be horrified.

The level of cleanliness and seeming regard for community in OZ is refreshing...it's something severely lacking in the USA.
 

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Agree 100%

It's so embarrassing.

Having seen a decent part of OZ at this point from Brisbane down to Melbourne makes the USA and much of Europe look like a bunch of pigs live there.

If you saw how bad the homeless "lifestyle choice" problem is from Seattle to San Diego now, in person, you'd be horrified.

The level of cleanliness and seeming regard for community in OZ is refreshing...it's something severely lacking in the USA.
Absolute vermin infestation.

Maybe the solution is for the police to refer the encampments to vector control.

Drain the liquids out of the campers and make them artificial reefs.
 

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There was guy begging by the freeway and he seemed so entitled and confident.

I could never beg like that.

I just don't have the confidence to be a good beggar.
 

Autoprax

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Stranger are the people who give them money.
Yes, they wouldn't do it if it didn't work.

It;s like feeding the wild ducks, It fucks them up

I have a friend; her brother is a drug addict,

He has a Vietnam vet begging sign but he was 12 during the Vietnam war.

That is awesome.

Parasitism is a viable survival strategy in nature

The society needs to bias people away from it.

I have seen at all levels of social strata.
 
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plasticbertrand

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I've been to NYC four times- once for a week, twice for two weeks each and once for a month. Always enjoyed being there. But like Gromsdad said , to live there and enjoy the place you'd have to be very wealthy. It was the only place I felt the tangible power of money. I was way uptown and knew I could walk back 6-70 blocks to where I was staying, or transform the money in my wallet into energy and be whisked downtown in a cab. In the end I walked. It's a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there.

I also lived in Milan, Italy for almost a year. I hated it, but that had mostly to do with the weather, the non stop overcast of the Pianura Padana.

Lived a year in Florence and a year in Venice as well. Those were both great experiences that I would happily repeat...but could not live there permanently. Can you guess why?

Surf withdrawals....
I never understood why are people enamored with Milan. For me, further south you go in Italy, the better it gets. Once you get out of the tourist traps, it's fantastic. I really liked Puglia, kinda out of the way place, that's not on anybody's bucket list.

I saw some really fun surf around Rome .....
 

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I never understood why are people enamored with Milan. For me, further south you go in Italy, the better it gets. Once you get out of the tourist traps, it's fantastic. I really liked Puglia, kinda out of the way place, that's not on anybody's bucket list.

I saw some really fun surf around Rome .....
the second time i went to italy, i went with a brazzo friend and two brazzo girls. all the contacts over there were his. thought rome was really great but when we stayed in milan, the milanese all carped about the lazy romans, who produced little & enacted higher & higher taxes, while milan was the city were stuff got done/made…

the milan guy we stayed with was a photog, so he got a lot of work there. his mother worked for italian vogue, so that helped too !

since italian girls were stingy about putting out, the guys we knew would post up at the milan train station in the summer and try to hit on the vacationing scandanavian chicks…

stayed by alberto moravia’s joint overlooking the aegean too, but FLAT…
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For me it's the dozens of anonymous Grindr hook-ups per day (often in conjunction with shooting dope into a vein or inhaling it through a pipe), the 4th generation tribal warfare, and the opportunity to live in a heavily-policed green-zone tax plantation where the only thing to do for recreation is watch TV and consoom.
 
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donuts

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For me it's the dozens of Grindr hook-ups per day (often in conjunction with shooting dope into a vein or inhaling it through a pipe), the 4th generation tribal warfare, and the opportunity to live in a heavily-policed green-zone tax plantation where the only thing to do for recreation is watch TV and consoom.
you left out the train surfing with various ethnic teenage truant retards…

:waving:
 

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i thought philadelphia fish & game strictly enforced the law that if they’re under 8 months or 28”, you gotta throw ‘em back in the river…. (?)
In fairness, shooting a child is more-humane than the Roman practice of abandoning it on a trash heap.