Why are so many young healthy people having cardiac issues?

[crustBrother]

Less though, you seem too think unless the vaccine was not perfect is worthless, very childish thinking.

this is a fair criticism i think

but it also fair to say that you appear to think that the immunity derived from infection is worthless - which is also childish thinking

the euros were better than you. they crafted a policy that basically said "if you have already been infected then wait for 6 months after infection and then vaccinate, if you haven't been infected then vaccinate immediately"

they were still wrong to mandate that, but at least they weren't science deniers with respect to the value of immunity derived from infection

 

[Random Guy]

We seem to be ignoring that the heart risks from the Vaccine are less than Covid itself.

is that the case for all segments of the population?
for older people, what you say is true, from what I understand
for younger people, I’m not so sure

 

[Ifallalot]

Less though, you seem too think unless the vaccine was not perfect is worthless, very childish thinking.

It takes some nuanced thinking

The vaccine was virtually worthless to many if not most people, yet ALL people were expected or even mandated to take it. If something is forced to everyone like this vaccine was, it should at least do what it's advertised to do. That's not even perfection

Just like everything else with covid, the response was not in line to the actual danger

 

[grapedrink]

Source?

The enormous number of breakthru infections are proof of this. I was vaxxed and boosters and still got sick, then infected my wife.

 

[PRCD]

The enormous number of breakthru infections are proof of this. I was vaxxed and boosters and still got sick, then infected my wife.

The idea that the vaccines would reduce infection was made-up out of whole cloth. Marc Lipsitch - a colleague of Rochelle Walensky at Harvard - did some computer modeling on the vax' effect on transmission and infection which was then used in CDC messaging and as a basis for the mandates. Infection and transmission was never MEASURED in the trials of the vaccine product.

Computer models - if not created with measured data and tested with the same - are just another form of lies.

 

[mundus]

The enormous number of breakthru infections are proof of this. I was vaxxed and boosters and still got sick, then infected my wife.

Think whatever you want, we all know your ilk will never admit to being wrong.

 

[crustBrother]

Think whatever you want, we all know your ilk will never admit to being wrong.

that is a fair criticism of almost everybody and certainly applies to you as well

 

[mundus]

that is a fair criticism of almost everybody and certainly applies to you as well

Generally true, however I am one of the very few here and none on your team that admits when factually wrong.

 

[Driftcoast]

So because of the pandemic we needed to recommend a vaccine that didn't even prevent infection or spread for most of the people who took it? makes sense

Reduced severity more than anything else. Was sold as being more that what it turned out to be.

 

[sirfun]

It's a form of surrender, almost as pathetic as putting someone on ignore or posting a meme someone else thought of.

​

 

[hammies]

Reduced severity more than anything else. Was sold as being more that what it turned out to be.

March 2021:

All the Covid-19 vaccines prevent death and severe disease, and that's what matters, experts say | CNN

All the coronavirus vaccines on our being considered for the US market prevent severe disease and death, that's all anyone needs to know, experts say.

www.cnn.com

 

[hal9000]

March 2021:

All the Covid-19 vaccines prevent death and severe disease, and that's what matters, experts say | CNN

All the coronavirus vaccines on our being considered for the US market prevent severe disease and death, that's all anyone needs to know, experts say.

www.cnn.com

But it wasn't perfect and didn't prevent infection 100% of the time!!

 

[Autoprax]

Isn't it possible that the healthy person had an underlying heart condition?

They were, in fact, not healthy?

Just question.

Wisdom of the Lemon tree says some good looking lemons don't taste very good.

 

[afoaf]

March 2021:

All the Covid-19 vaccines prevent death and severe disease, and that's what matters, experts say | CNN

All the coronavirus vaccines on our being considered for the US market prevent severe disease and death, that's all anyone needs to know, experts say.

www.cnn.com

buh buh buh buh they said it was going to cure covid

this is exactly what the test results indicated before the vaccines were approved and aligned with the messaging from health officials...

the monday morning quarterbacks aren't even looking at the tapes

choo choo!

The idea that the vaccines would reduce infection was made-up out of whole cloth.

false

 

[Ifallalot]

buh buh buh buh they said it was going to cure covid

this is exactly what the test results indicated before the vaccines were approved and aligned with the messaging from health officials...

the monday morning quarterbacks aren't even looking at the tapes

choo choo!



false

Wow, companies don't go back and edit their old stories?

 

[mundus]

Wow, companies don't go back and edit their old stories?

Thats the major corporations you are always shilling for.

 

[grapedrink]

buh buh buh buh they said it was going to cure covid

this is exactly what the test results indicated before the vaccines were approved and aligned with the messaging from health officials...

the monday morning quarterbacks aren't even looking at the tapes

choo choo!

LOLZ. Plenty of videos of politicians saying that we can stop wearing masks and that you won't get sick if you get the jab. Your cognitive dissonance on this is puzzling

 

[hammies]

"The whole reason you want to be vaccinated is so you don’t get serious illness from Covid-19,” Adalja added.

Tough to be less ambiguous than this.

BTW Dr. Amesh Adalja is a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. I am sure not as knowledgeable about Covid vaccines than many of the Top Men on this board, but still...

 

[afoaf]

Wow, companies don't go back and edit their old stories?

and there it is....the body cam conspiracy continues

you guys are fkn ridiculous

the trial test results, previously cited in this forum, said the exact same fkn thing...reduced severity of infection and likelihood of death

LOLZ. Plenty of videos of politicians saying that we can stop wearing masks and that you won't get sick if you get the jab. Your cognitive dissonance on this is puzzling

it's like you're totally fkn incapable of acknowledging the "novel" part of the novel coronavirus outbreak....we learned things along the way...you want to apply statements made prior to the existence of breakout infections to our understanding of the virus as it stands today

it's not logical.....and it's so fkn tiresome

btw, mask mandate were lifted...albeit later than we all would have liked, but they were ended...the vaccine did that!

 

[grapedrink]

Remember when Fauci and Biden explicitly and publicly said that you should get vaccinated but will still have a strong chance of getting Covid, spreading Covid, and will still be asked to wear masks

yeah, i don't either