Why are democrats trying to stop an audit of the votes in Arizona?

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Agree with you on this one Grommer.

Judge pulls back the curtain on Arizona Republicans' sham election audit

Arizona Senate President Karen Fann has been performing a Wizard of Oz act for months, talking big and hiding behind a curtain of secrecy surrounding the financing and communications between herself and the conspiracy kooks at Cyber Ninjas that she hired to perform a sham audit of Maricopa County election results.

On Thursday, however, Superior Court Judge Michael Kemp pulled back the drapery, ordering that Fann and the Republican-controlled Senate make available “any and all” records, including communications, planning, procedures, as well as who exactly is paying for this fiasco, to the nonprofit group American Oversight, which sued Fann and the Senate under public records law.

The Arizona Republic also has a lawsuit aimed at making public the financial records and communications between the Senate and the Cyber Ninjas.

Only now it is the hocus-pocus hustle being perpetrated by Fann and the Cyber Ninjas that is at risk of being exposed.

After the ruling was announced, American Oversight Executive Director Austin Evers said in a prepared statement, “Starting now, the Arizona Senate is going to have to face real, public accountability.

“For months, the public has been asked to trust the word of senators about the sham audit of the 2020 election. Arizona law does not allow the Senate to outsource democracy and shroud it in secrecy. This ruling makes clear that the Senate must immediately begin releasing records to the public.”

Fann’s lawyers were hoping the court would pay no attention to the woman behind the curtain.


Few AZ voter fraud cases, discrediting Trump’s claims

AP’s findings align with previous studies showing voter fraud is rare. Numerous safeguards are built into the system to not only prevent fraud from happening but to detect it when it does.

“The fact of the matter is that election officials across the state are highly invested in helping to ensure the integrity of our elections and the public’s confidence in them,” said Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, a Democrat. “And part of that entails taking potential voter fraud seriously.”

Arizona’s potential cases also illustrate another reality: Voter fraud is often bipartisan. Of the four Arizona cases that have resulted in criminal charges, two involved Democratic voters and two involved Republicans.

AP’s review supports statements made by many state and local elections officials — and even some Republican county officials and GOP Gov. Doug Ducey — that Arizona’s presidential election was secure and its results valid.

And still, Arizona’s GOP-led state Senate has for months been conducting what it describes as a “forensic audit” of results in Phoenix’s Maricopa County. The effort has been discredited by election experts and faced bipartisan criticism, but some Republicans, including Trump, have suggested it will uncover evidence of widespread fraud.

“This is not a massive issue,” said Adrian Fontes, a Democrat who oversaw the Maricopa County election office during the 2020 election and lost his re-election bid. “It is a lie that has developed over time. It’s been fed by conspiracy theorists.”

The AP tallied the potential cases after submitting public record requests to all Arizona counties. Most counties — 11 out of 15 — reported they had forwarded no potential cases to local prosecutors. The majority of cases identified so far involve people casting a ballot for a relative who had died or people who tried to cast two ballots.
 

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Did they finish the vote count yet? When is the reinstatement?
They've been counting them for 6 fucking months. There's only like 3 million votes in the whole goddam state. I call bullshit on the whole thing, those "auditors' aren't gonna uncover sh!t.
 

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They've been counting them for 6 fucking months. There's only like 3 million votes in the whole goddam state. I call bullshit on the whole thing, those "auditors' aren't gonna uncover sh!t.
There is also something to be said for a political bloc that needs 2 hands to count to 3. That is one reason it is taking so long.
 
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Lets get some prediction going: nothing changes, Trump won't win Arizona, more will be said about how things went wrong with no or questionable data to support the initial fraud claim