if you knew what "burden of proof" meant, you'd realize why you latching on this bit of fanfic is so fkn comical
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Who blew up Nord Stream?
- Thread starter GromsDad
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I'm beginning to think it was actually the Swedes. They must be getting tired of being so beige that even the Danelandian's think they're boring.
do you have any more questions ??
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To the acts of retaliation:
Finland says broken anchor of Chinese vessel caused gas pipeline damage
Police say they believe damage to the Balticconnector gas pipeline was caused by Newnew Polar Bear’s dislodged anchor.
Damage to gas pipeline, telecom cable connecting Finland and Estonia caused by ‘external activity
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The street consensus was that Baltic countries blew up Nordstream to punish Russia for invading Ukraine. To answer the title question though, the Ukraine military blew up Nordstream.
During the Ukraine war China has been cozying up to Russia and buying more petroleum from Russia. Before we knew that the culprit was Ukraine instead of Baltic countries China retaliated on behalf of Russia by destroying two communication trunk cables and a natural gas pipeline, all between Finland and Estonia.
The world is polarizing.
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The street consensus was that Baltic countries blew up Nordstream to punish Russia for invading Ukraine. To answer the title question though, the Ukraine military blew up Nordstream.
During the Ukraine war China has been cozying up to Russia and buying more petroleum from Russia. Before we knew that the culprit was Ukraine instead of Baltic countries China retaliated on behalf of Russia by destroying two communication trunk cables and a natural gas pipeline, all between Finland and Estonia.
The world is polarizing.
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The Most Consequential Act of Sabotage in Modern Times
At 2:03 a.m. on Monday, September 26, 2022, at the bottom of the Baltic Sea, an explosion tore open one of the four massive underwater conduits that make up the Nord Stream pipeline. The pipe, made of thick, concrete-encased steel, lay at a depth of 260 feet. It was filled with highly compressed methane gas.
Pressure readings would show a sudden plunge as compressed gas screamed through the breach at the speed of sound, tearing the pipe apart and carving deep craters on the seafloor. Gas escaped with enough force to propel a rocket into space. It shot up and up, creating a towering geyser above the surface of the water.
There was no one in the vicinity—the middle of the sea in the middle of the night—to see or hear any of this, but the event registered with the force of a small earthquake on seismometers 15 miles away, on the Danish island of Bornholm. Because the explosion had occurred in Danish waters, Denmark dispatched an airplane to investigate. By then, the geyser had settled into a wide, turbulent simmer on the surface. The Danish Maritime Authority ordered ships to steer clear. Airspace was restricted. A pipeline executive in Switzerland, where Nord Stream is based, urgently exchanged information with officials in Denmark and other countries....
Djibouti is a pretty big banking town for the Horn of Africa. Friend from college, Zara, her brother and sister worked for banks there.
As for Nord Stream2, some closed investigations, but no "names" yet.
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Danish police have said they are closing their inquiry into the blasts that tore apart two pipelines intended to ship Russian gas to Germany.
Authorities concluded the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines had been "sabotaged" in September 2022 - but said there was no basis for pursuing a criminal case.
Responsibility for for the suspected sabotage is still unknown.
Sweden closed its investigation earlier this month, citing a lack of jurisdiction.
Germany is still investigating the incident.
Last year, US intelligence officials told the New York Times newspaper that a pro-Ukrainian group might have plotted the attack. The Ukrainian government has denied involvement.
As for Nord Stream2, some closed investigations, but no "names" yet.
Source
Danish police have said they are closing their inquiry into the blasts that tore apart two pipelines intended to ship Russian gas to Germany.
Authorities concluded the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines had been "sabotaged" in September 2022 - but said there was no basis for pursuing a criminal case.
Responsibility for for the suspected sabotage is still unknown.
Sweden closed its investigation earlier this month, citing a lack of jurisdiction.
Germany is still investigating the incident.
Last year, US intelligence officials told the New York Times newspaper that a pro-Ukrainian group might have plotted the attack. The Ukrainian government has denied involvement.
one article mentioned that sometimes this happens as a result of an anchor dragging across the line
it'll be the Iranians vis a vis the Houthis....
(Bloomberg) -- The anchor of a cargo ship that was attacked by Houthi militants was the most likely cause of damage to three telecommunications cables in the Red Sea in late February, according to a subsea cable trade group that includes companies operating in the region.
“It’s generally accepted that the Rubymar dropped an anchor when fired upon and as a result it damaged cables in proximity,” said Ryan Wopschall, general manager of the International Cable Protection Committee, the group representing subsea cable operators.
The Rubymar, a Belize-flagged commercial ship loaded with 41,000 tons of fertilizer, was hit by ballistic missiles in mid-February off the west coast of Yemen. Days later, the cables were damaged in the same area. The crew abandoned the 172-meter-long ship after dropping one of its anchors, and the vessel drifted for almost two weeks through an area of the Red Sea that’s densely populated with cables, before sinking on Saturday.
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“It’s generally accepted that the Rubymar dropped an anchor when fired upon and as a result it damaged cables in proximity,” said Ryan Wopschall, general manager of the International Cable Protection Committee, the group representing subsea cable operators.
The Rubymar, a Belize-flagged commercial ship loaded with 41,000 tons of fertilizer, was hit by ballistic missiles in mid-February off the west coast of Yemen. Days later, the cables were damaged in the same area. The crew abandoned the 172-meter-long ship after dropping one of its anchors, and the vessel drifted for almost two weeks through an area of the Red Sea that’s densely populated with cables, before sinking on Saturday.
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