Who’s undermining democracy?

Duffy LaCoronilla

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They want him removed from the ballot because they don't have a candidate with any chance of beating him otherwise.
They don‘t want elections.

They keep repeating over and over that 2016 was, and 2020 will be a fraudulent election.

If a republican (in this case Trump) wins they’ll say “the Russians!!!” did it. If a dem wins there will be no concern about Russians at all.

The only way (at this point in time) to do away with elections is to get enough people to lose faith in them.
 
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casa_mugrienta

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They don‘t want elections.

They keep repeating over and over that 2016 was, and 2020 will be a fraudulent election.
Exactly.

If a republican (in this case Trump) wins they’ll say “the Russians!!!” did it.
Yes, and it's a continuation of the game they've been playing the past 10 years.

Is this all really all about natural gas interests?

If a dem wins there will be no concern about Russians at all.
We'll see.

There was an article posted here a few weeks back with a Republican member of Congress saying national security agencies are advising China and other countries are getting in on the "election interference" game as well.

So, no fair elections, ever!
 

Ifallalot

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I'm glad Pencil Neck just came out and said it. This is what Peach Mints always has been about
 

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It isn't that hard to understand. If our president is soliciting help from foreign governments in our elections it erodes the public's faith in their validity. No one is saying cancel the next election including Adam Schiff. He is answering those that just say wait until the election.

You guys really are all in for party (actually not even party - the cult of one man) over our country and the constitution. Is it really the ends justify the means argument? How can you have deluded yourselves to this extent?
 

Ifallalot

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It isn't that hard to understand. If our president is soliciting help from foreign governments in our elections it erodes the public's faith in their validity. No one is saying cancel the next election including Adam Schiff. He is answering those that just say wait until the election.

You guys really are all in for party (actually not even party - the cult of one man) over our country and the constitution. Is it really the ends justify the means argument? How can you have deluded yourselves to this extent?
He's asking foreign governments to change vote totals?

People have free will, and make their own choices. As long as non-citizens aren't voting, the elections are completely valid because voters cannot exist in a vacuum in our tiny world we have nowadays.
 

Autoprax

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Schiff basically just said he doesn’t want to have an election.
It seems like you are making an attribute substitution and falling pretty to your own framing effect.

You conveniently omit the antecedent that AS bases this idea on: trump using the power of the US for his own benefit to win the election by cheating.

Humans are by nature narrow framers.

Party on, boys!
 

Ifallalot

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It's weird.

You always say the whole system is corrupt!

Then you support this idea by focusing on the corruption of the lefties.
This is not focusing on the corruption of the lefties, this is focusing on the corruption of the whole system.
 

Autoprax

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This is not focusing on the corruption of the lefties, this is focusing on the corruption of the whole system.
You always say the whole system is corrupt!

"'Im glad Pencil Neck just came out and said it. This is what Peach Mints always has been about"
 

Duffy LaCoronilla

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It seems like you are making an attribute substitution and falling pretty to your own framing effect.

You conveniently omit the antecedent that AS bases this idea on: trump using the power of the US for his own benefit to win the election by cheating.

Humans are by nature narrow framers.

Party on, boys!
Blah blah blah. That’s all you ever say. You never address the issue.

You have the narrowest frame of anyone here.

And Trump wanted a country that has a history of corruption, who recently had a change of leadership, to investigate corruption before we give them more millions. If that helps his election thaT’s a side effect.

Biden straight up admitted to holding up money until they did what he wanted.

Bitch, please.
 

Autoprax

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I only say it because it's what is affecting your decision making pretty much every post you make.

I like that you done gone full retard trump minion where your whole perception of reality is distorted.

PS: You write "You never address the issue" while ignoring my addressing of the issue:

"You conveniently omit the antecedent that AS bases this idea on: trump using the power of the US for his own benefit to win the election by cheating."


Agreee to disagree!:poop:
 

Ifallalot

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I only say it because it's what is affecting your decision making pretty much every post you make.

I like that you done gone full retard trump minion where your whole perception of reality is distorted.

PS: You write "You never address the issue" while ignoring my addressing of the issue:

"You conveniently omit the antecedent that AS bases this idea on: trump using the power of the US for his own benefit to win the election by cheating."


Agreee to disagree!:poop:
What is the "cheating" here?