What's Ukraine worth to the United States and you?

ElOgro

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Talk to whom like what?

I don't agree it's going to be a pile of rubble. Look at how much land Russia subsumed. Like 20% at a very high cost.

They were supposed to take the whole country 4 days.

Destroying it is sour grapes

And now they are "Wah wah wah. The US didn't let us subsume Ukraine!"

Putin is hoping trump wins and will save him.

So the plan is wide open.

I say keep giving them our old weapons and see what happens.

#ihatebullies
To Putin.

Give the Ukraine what they need to win decisively and run off the ruskies asap. Are you with me on that?
 

GromsDad

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West of the Atlantic. East of the ICW.
Continue to interfere with US elections
So if you were Putin you wouldn't blow some Americans up? We are playing with fire in Ukraine. This could easily escalate out of control. We have no vital interest in Ukraine. We need to stay out of it and that includes supplying them with jets, tanks and specialized war technology.
 
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Autoprax

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So if you were Putin you wouldn't blow some Americans up? We are playing with fire in Ukraine. This could easily escalate out of control. We have no vital interest in Ukraine. We need to stay out of it and that includes supplying them with jets, tanks and specialized war technology.
Isn't putin the one playing with fire?

Isn't this a reaction to his illegal invasion of another country?

You do realize Putin invaded right?

I can recommend some good books about Putin's character if you are interested.
 

hammies

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I think the risk of massive escalation is there, but not as great as the MAGA crowd makes it seem.

IMO the biggest risk of massive escalation exists in the scenario where down the road the USA pulls out of NATO, effectively disengaging from Europe, which would embolden Putin to begin a general war in central Europe to rebuild not only the USSR but the Warsaw Pact as well. It would be 1939-41 all over again.