They will only get away with poking the bear for so long before things escalate out of control.
I guess that would depend on who is standing on whose land and poking whom. The right of self defense is God-given.
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They will only get away with poking the bear for so long before things escalate out of control.
Its dummies like prax and mundy who got us into Vietnam.
so your period starts after you withdraw your support? that explains a lot, actually.The red line is boots on the ground. When the U.S. commits American lives to a limited war I withdraw my support. Period.
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I don't get the lefty hawk frame.So you think we should have gotten involved in Europe's war before Pearl Harbor?
Man I love how the lefties have turned into the kind of hawk that would make a turn-of-the-century Bush Neocon blush!
Here is an exercise for all of you leftist chicken hawks. List for us the following regarding our involvement in Ukraine:
Top three Benefits of US involvement in Ukraine:
1.__________________________________
2.__________________________________
3.__________________________________
Top three risks of US involvement in Ukraine:
1.__________________________________
2.__________________________________
3.__________________________________
Takes Biden's failed domestic agenda and his scandals off of the news. That could be said to be a benefit.There are zero benefits
Putin’s aggression is not against usI don't get the lefty hawk frame.
You think, fawning, freezing, or flight, will be safer than a fight response in response to Putin aggression.
It might be.
But it might not.
Thinking it might not doesn't make one a hawk.
It's just a difference of opinion.
I disagree.Putin’s aggression is not against us
indifference is the correct reaction
The west is not usI disagree.
Putin has been at war with the west for 15 years.
I thought you were a history guy.
No. Until Putin attacks us, it is not our problem.Basically, you think if you leave Putin alone, he won't be a problem.
That is where we disagree.
You could be right but I don't think so.
One time a student threatened to kick my ass after class in the hallway. He had been harassing me all semester.
In my shirt and tie, I threw my brief case on the ground and said "Ok, kick my ass, fucker."
He made the threat assuming I wouldn't escalate because I would have gotten fired.
He backed down and never came back to class.
Sometimes with a bully you got to say fook it.
Ukraine has a really developed special operations force which is highly skilled in observation, probes and raids. They've also done wonders with DJI style drones. They are short on the hard aviation...like the OH58 which is able to send targeting information directly to indirect fire groups as well and armor and infantry.War needs forward observers. I think the people reaping the financial benefits of wars should be at the front to properly see how their money is being made. Maybe only encase one foot in concrete so they can pivot while they observe.
He can't. I think there are some real doubts about the capability of Russia to launch and target ICBM's...so they are left with more tactical nukes which aren't very useful if your goal is to occupy the land you are at war over.So what is to stop Putin from taking over the world using the threat of nuclear escalation?
Yes, it's a hollow threat.He can't. I think there are some real doubts about the capability of Russia to launch and target ICBM's...so they are left with more tactical nukes which aren't very useful if your goal is to occupy the land you are at war over.
The US has the capability to hit every single land and most sea based Russian nuke assets in 15 minutes. We also have a fighting chance to target and destroy missiles that come our way. That's not to say a couple can't sneak through.... but the goal of a nuclear arsenal isn't to fight to the death or go on a suicide mission with the goal of hurting your enemy while committing suicide...it's to deter. Russia has lost the deterrent but it's been good policy to play along with them the past 20 years. If Russia were to use Nukes on the battlefield the Biden admin already said they would target and destroy the Russian Black Sea fleet. That makes Russia incapable of defending itself on the Atlantic coast....something Russians fear.
we’ve replaced “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” with “if my opponent is for it, no matter the cause or how righteous it is, I must be against it”.Yes, it's a hollow threat.
Russia is great at those.
Therefore, the people who are scared of Russian escalation, and use that as an excuse not to provide weapons, are wrong.
I don't get fear of escalation against someone who has already escalated.
The aid is 8% of the military budget.
It's great deal.
--liberal warmonger out!
3 years minimum to get them on the battlefield.I don't imagine those 30 tanks are going to see combat anytime soon. The Abrams isn't just a tank. It's a fairly complex component of a layered offensive system....which a Bradley is part of and on the way but there are many components that will not be there, like aviation. The there's the difficulty of maintaining a turbine powered vehicle vs a Diesel engine (the Leopard). I suspect this was done for the pussy German government in order for them to send and authorize Leopards..which will probably killing a lot of Russians come spring.