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What should America do about the childhood obesity epidemic?
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Another variable pushing girls towards eating disorders is the skinny girls wins all the prizes.
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I remember having physical education as a mandatory subject from first grade through high school. Is this no longer the case? Why?
In addition to experiencing far greater satiation (apt to eat less), having more energy (inclined to be more active and burn more calories), the individual with a good diet will avoid a host of other issue suffered by the poor fool consuming ice cream and chips. This is why diets and counting calories doesn’t work. Poison in moderation is still poison and you’ll have to continually deal with how it negatively affects your body and appetites.
I tell fatsos they just need to add 1-3 protien shakes a day.
They don't like it because it compromises their abitly to over eat.
They don't like it because it compromises their abitly to over eat.
Again, all of those are indirect effects. You are really struggling to differentiate between direct and indirect effects on metabolic rate. Any effect on metabolic rate via food choice is insignificant relative to the effect of overall caloric intake. A 1000 calorie surplus of whole foods is still a 1000 calorie surplus, and may have a slight thermic advantage via digestion compared to 1000 calories of Soda, but you are talking maybe a 10% difference at best and it will still result in weight gain.
bs. People do it all the time but it requires discipline and knowledge that most people don't have and cannot sustain long term. I do agree though that is not the greatest strategy, however at the end of the day any weight loss strategy that works will do so by reducing caloric intake. Even if that reduction in calories is done so through indirect means, such as eating more satiating whole foods that tend to be less calorically dense as opposed to processed foods.
These guys lost weight eating mcdonalds everyday, but within their caloric balance. The last was done with twinkies.
This Man Ate a Big Mac Every Day, But Still Managed to Lose Weight
Jordan Syatt proves there are no "bad" foods.
www.menshealth.com
Man loses 56 pounds after eating only McDonald's for six months
He makes nutritionists frown, but a man who ate all of his meals at McDonald’s for six months says he’s lighter and healthier as he nears the end of his unconventional weight-loss plan.John Cisna, a high school science teacher in Colo, Iowa, who gained national attention for his experiment, says...
Man ate only McDonalds for a month and lost 16lbs - but experts are concerned
He wanted to disprove the results of the documentary Super Size Me
www.independent.co.uk
Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds
Twinkies. Nutty bars. Powdered donuts.
www.cnn.com
Relevant in the broader picture, but again, there is still no direct metabolic effect. You are deflecting away from that into indirect effects in order to make your point.
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And yet for some odd reason none of them are recommending their “healthy” diets. Point well made, grape!!
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Nor am I. This discussion was never about what's healthy vs not in terms of diet, it was about what causes obesity. Try to keep up instead of constantly derailing to distract from your failed gotchas, it makes you look like a fool.
With a healthy diet and a reasonable amount of exercise, it's actually difficult to gain weight. You won't get food cravings, your body may occasionally be in ketosis, etc.
With a crappy diet and lot's of exercise, it's difficult to not gain weight. More of your calories will be converted into fat, you'll have food cravings, energy swings, and generally feel like sh!t so will probably be less active.
OF course, but you are still ignoring the driving factor- a caloric deficit. If you go over your caloric deficit with "healthy" high calorie foods like avos, almonds, olive oil etc you will still gain weight just like you would with processed foods. There is no getting around thermodynamics, although I do agree that choosing whole foods, especially high quality proteins and veggies, is a good way to indirectly reduce caloric intake.
Also, keto is BS as a weight loss strategy and was debunked years ago. When in excess, people on keto still gain weight. Their bodies simply become more adept at converting fat into energy, however you are also consuming more dietary fat so it only pulls from body fat stores when in excess.
Lemme guess . . . . You're a Gary Taubes fan
Sure, I'm not disagreeing with that. You do understand the difference between DIRECT and INDIRECT effects, don't you?
The links I posted above show that you can still lose weight with a crappy diet as long as calories are in check.
I eat those things almost every day, and while I do like them I don't crave them, I'd have to force myself to eat so much that I'd go over my caloric deficit. And I'm perfectly satiated throughout the day.
If I ate processed foods I would begin to crave them and would generally be prone to being hungrier. I'd also have energy swings and would probably tend to be less active.
Can't you see the difference here?
I mentioned ketosis, not a keto diet.
I can eat way too many nuts
Easily
And often
But in general, yes, I agree
Most people aren’t going to eat a strictly healthy diet
You can eat healthy and add in some ice cream and still be healthy
Until you take a few hits off the pipe and before you realize it you finished off a half gallon of ice cream
Easily
And often
But in general, yes, I agree
Most people aren’t going to eat a strictly healthy diet
You can eat healthy and add in some ice cream and still be healthy
Until you take a few hits off the pipe and before you realize it you finished off a half gallon of ice cream
Thank you for finally recognizing the driving factor (in bold).
Yes. Nowhere am I disagreeing with any of this. what I'm saying is that these are indirect effects on caloric intake based on food choice, not any food being inherently obesogenic.
“Foods are the main source of obesogens. Some obesogens occur naturally in food, but most are environmental chemicals, entering food as a foreign substance, whether in the form of contaminants or additives, and they are used in a large amount in highly processed food.” — www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I tried smoking pot again instead of drinking to avoid the empty calories..
Then I was like, Oh, sh!t! The munchies!
I forget about those.
It's always the same people who are punching down.
Some of them are ex-fatties too.
No psych analysis needed.
Yep.
Ironic for someone who wants to keep government out of it and let the corporations decide what's best for us.