What should America do about the childhood obesity epidemic?

[Random Guy]

I was thinking the other day about how we are being served mixed messages.

On the one hand "body positivity" is being promoted, "healthy and beautiful at any weight," and on the other hand this "epidemic."

Can't be both.

you could keep the best part of pony positivity and mix it with guidance to fix the epidemic and have most people be ok with it

the best part of body positivity is the idea that you don’t shame the fat person. They are not bad because they are fat, but they are not healthy because they are fat
or they are headed towards being unhealthy because of their weight

you can make the message something other than ”fat people are bad” and change it to ”people at or above a certain weight are increasing the likelihood of many different medical issues”
and most, not all, but most people would be ok with it

 

[Random Guy]

The obsession with self image and especially the obsession with what others are eating or what they look like is unhealthy. "healthy and beautiful at any weight," is just a response to incessant preaching about what ohers eat or do with their life.

Not everybody is into dissecting their nutritional habits or obsessed what they look like or into excercise.
That doesn't mean that they eat McDonald's every day or that they are dumb.
People enjoy life in their own way, as always, the message should be more about moderation than radical diet plans.

People live into their 90's even though they may like a glass of wine with a meal or a slice of bread.

It makes me laugh when people say that Mediterranean diet makes people live longer, when in actuality enjoying life and everything it brings, including food, is what makes you live longer, not a perfect BMI.
That's what Mediterranean diet is.

IN MODERATION

Please post your your average caloric intake and macro nutrients and then I will decide whether to agree or disagree with you

 

[Sharky]

you could keep the best part of pony positivity

Leave the chubby ponies alone!

 

[Random Guy]

Leave the chubby ponies alone!

Lol
i have to be the worst erbb typist ever

 

[VonMeister]

No one is making an argument for healthy at any size. The argument, I think, is that it's healthy to not shun others because of their size.

This is undeniable......but also no fun.

 

[Random Guy]

This is undeniable......but also no fun.

Some people believe that shaming fat people motivates fat people to get in shape and deter people from becoming overweight

 

[estreet]

Some people believe that shaming fat people motivates fat people to get in shape and deter people from becoming overweight

Apparently a poor strategy for Americans.

 

[VonMeister]

Some people believe that shaming fat people motivates fat people to get in shape and deter people from becoming overweight

I can't argue with science.

 

[Random Guy]

I can't argue with science.

ask prcd to teach you how

 

[plasticbertrand]

Apparently a poor strategy for Americans.

Let the free market decide!

 

[plasticbertrand]

I keep listening to people in their 20s and 30s who are into "wellness", raving about their nutrition genre and how great it works for them.

In reality, any diet in moderation and any type of exercise at that age works.

It's only when you get to your 50s/60s that you start figuring out that you've been doing it wrong all along.

Placebo is a hella drug.

I have some wellness friends who went from 20 years of vegetarianism to eating liver every day becuz did you see how ripped Liver King is? rofl

Internet is cancer.

 

[Sharky]

How Much Recess Should Kids Get? | K-12 Schools | U.S. News (usnews.com)

This is multivariate IMHO. Shitty food was always there. Healthy choices are much more available outside of the home these days. And yet kids now have a three times higher risk of obesity than kids in the 70's. The activity levels of the kids on my street now is nil. The previous generation of kids was out there on bikes, skateboards, playing games etc etc. The kids now, I don't even see them outside. Fat as fvck, constantly on their phones or inside playing video games.

It's just going to get worse from here. IMHO, it's child abuse. You might as well buy them a carton of cigarettes every week.

 

[plasticbertrand]

How Much Recess Should Kids Get? | K-12 Schools | U.S. News (usnews.com)

This is multivariate IMHO. Shitty food was always there. Healthy choices are much more available outside of the home these days. And yet kids now have a three times higher risk of obesity than kids in the 70's. The activity levels of the kids on my street now is nil. The previous generation of kids was out there on bikes, skateboards, playing games etc etc. The kids now, I don't even see them outside. Fat as fvvk, constantly on their phones or inside playing video games.

It's just going to get worse from here. IMHO, it's child abuse. You might as well buy them a carton of cigarettes every week.

Eating healthy takes effort.

Fast food is easy, cheap and delicious.

Free market.

I was on a job in Ohio boonies a few weeks ago and healthy food choices where literally non-existent.
Fried pickles is closest I could get to a vegetable.
This is not an exaggeration.

 

[Sharky]

Eating healthy takes effort.

Fast food is easy, cheap and delicious.

Free market.

It's easier than ever to make healthy choices with takeout food. Much better than it has ever been. In the 70's there was no such thing as healthy choices re fast food.

And I dispute the whole "cheap" thing with fast food. I hear that one all the time, but I call BS. Fast food is expensive. You can go a whole lot further per dollar with a bag of rice, a bag of beans, fresh veggies and various meats.

 

[donuts]

I keep listening to people in their 20s and 30s who are into "wellness", raving about their nutrition genre and how great it works for them.

Internet is cancer.

the narcissist vids on twitter are metastasizing as we type...


although i must admit to kinda diggin’ the xenophobic ones on occasion...

 

[plasticbertrand]

It's easier than ever to make healthy choices with takeout food. Much better than it has ever been. In the 70's there was no such thing as healthy choices re fast food.

Yes it is, where we live. (see my edit above)

There's a reason why obesity is more prevalent in the midwest.

 

[freeride76]

There's ample evidence that "just stop eating" or "Just reduce calories" doesn't work. Psychological interventions are a necessary component because most people got fat by adopting an unhealthy relationship with food for several years.

No one is obese due to genetics. Not everyone is going to look lean and chiseled but that is a terrible measure of health to begin with.

Lizzo on the other hand is not healthy. The healthy at any size argument may be one of the most harmful policies this country ever entertained.

Making genetic and micro biome arguments isn't helping anyone. Therapy is a necessary component. There are also some great therapeutics that help as well. At the end of the day it takes buy in from the person.

God, I can't wait for American Therapy Fat speak to migrate here.

 

[npsp]

Eating healthy takes effort.

Fast food is easy, cheap and delicious.

Free market.

I was on a job in Ohio boonies a few weeks ago and healthy food choices where literally non-existent.
Fried pickles is closest I could get to a vegetable.
This is not an exaggeration.

I work a lot in the mid-west and the south central states. And when you are in the boonies it's almost impossible to eat healthy. People in these regions embrace their bellies with pride. The lack of good food shows as some of the guys I work with are 20 years younger than me but if it weren't for my gray hair, I look younger than them. It's sad when doing a job walk and a 30 YO is huffing and puffing up a few flights of stairs and/or is too heavy to safely climb a ladder.

 

[hal9000]

You're kidding.

no, very serious.

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Also....I love how we subsidize all the unhealthy sh!t that's in our food and then sit around wondering why we're so fat.

 

[enframed]

You might as well buy them a carton of cigarettes every week.

If you did this many would lose weight.