"We'll walk right into your home," she said...

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

If you're working at any small to large scale medical facility you fill out a job application.

At my facility I have to fill out a job application even if applying to a different position within the organization.
If you are coming in to paint a wall you have to fill out a variation of an application for an outside contractor.
Even the physicians fill out some version of an application that is submitted to HR despite many being independent contractors.

Interesting. I do contracted work at a couple of hospitals and never had to fill out anything resembling a job application.

 

[StuAzole]

Parody, dingaling

Doesn’t make it less of a fake.

 

[Lance Mannion]

Doesn’t make it less of a fake.

Barney Rubble, Deep Fake.

I'm calling Garvin right now.

 

[StuAzole]

If you're working at any small to large scale medical facility you fill out a job application.

At my facility I have to fill out a job application even if applying to a different position within the organization.
If you are coming in to paint a wall you have to fill out a variation of an application for an outside contractor.
Even the physicians fill out some version of an application that is submitted to HR despite many being independent contractors.

Welp, in CA an employer can’t ask about criminal background until the conditional offer stage and even then they’re limited to inquiring about convictions. I don’t know what applications you’re filling out but if you’re being asked about arrests without convictions in the initial application you may want to contact a good employment lawyer.

 

[Lance Mannion]

Welp, in CA an employer can’t ask about criminal background until the conditional offer stage and even then they’re limited to inquiring about convictions. I don’t know what applications you’re filling out but if you’re being asked about arrests without convictions in the initial application you may want to contact a good employment lawyer.

This only applies to POC's.

 

[StuAzole]

This only applies to POC's.

POC’s what?

Neither charming nor sophisticated.

 

[casa_mugrienta]

Welp, in CA an employer can’t ask about criminal background until the conditional offer stage and even then they’re limited to inquiring about convictions.

What's your point?

They can run a background check during the application process.

That was just a few years ago that "can't ask" law was passed.

Also, the rules are different for organizations that except Medicare and Medicaid payments in regards to what an employer can request during the application process.

 

[casa_mugrienta]

Interesting. I do contracted work at a couple of hospitals and never had to fill out anything resembling a job application.

Isn't your business making sure fuel pumps are within regulation?

What's the work you're doing at hospitals?

 

[GromsDad]

Totally not happening...........

 

[StuAzole]

What's your point?

They can run a background check during the application process.

They're going to end up asking you if they're going to extend an offer otherwise.

That was just a few years ago that "can't ask" law was passed.

Also, the rules are different for organizations that except Medicare and Medicaid payments in regards to what an employer can request during the application process.

My point is no, an arrest without conviction won’t kill your career in CA.

Legally employers can’t ask about arrests without convictions, including on the application itself.

In CA an employer cannot perform a background check before the conditional offer stage.

In California background checks can’t report arrests without convictions.

Do no, there is not likely a scenario where an arrest without conviction will kill your career. That said, I understand these laws might be different for health care and I’d appreciate if you could educate me on the specifics.

 

[Ifallalot]

The context of the clip is more that they wanted to be sure big wave boars were properly stored, and not just lying around for some kid to grab.

But that seems like an “unreasonable search…” situation.

“Seems?”

that’s the definition of unreasonable search

no one from the government should ever enter someone’s home. If they do, they should expect to be killed

 

[casa_mugrienta]

My point is no, an arrest without conviction won’t kill your career in CA.

Now.

5 or more years ago it could have.

Which is when I had to deal with this.

Legally employers can’t ask about arrests without convictions, including on the application itself.

In CA an employer cannot perform a background check before the conditional offer stage.

In California background checks can’t report arrests without convictions.

Do no, there is not likely a scenario where an arrest without conviction will kill your career.

Maybe in California.

Elsewhere, yeah it can.

Why would you want to limit yourself to this state?

It can also make licensure a big hassle.

I think it's normal not to want to get arrested for a firearms felony.

 

[StuAzole]

“Seems?”

that’s the definition of unreasonable search

no one from the government should ever enter someone’s home. If they do, they should expect to be killed

Psst, there was no search.

 

[StuAzole]

Now.

5 or more years ago it could have.

Which is when I had to deal with this.




Maybe in California.

Elsewhere, yeah it can.

Why would you want to limit yourself to this state?

It can also make licensure a big hassle.

I think it's normal not to want to get arrested for a firearms felony.

CA nursing board rules are clear that an arrest alone cannot impact license status. I looked it up.

 

[casa_mugrienta]

How does CA law deal with FBI background checks?

As it seems thats what employers in healthcare and childcare/teaching like.

Those show anything and everything if you've been printed.

 

[casa_mugrienta]

CA nursing board rules are clear that an arrest alone cannot impact license status. I looked it up.

It's normal to hold licenses in multiple states.

Why would you limit yourself to CA anyway?

 

[casa_mugrienta]

I looked it up.

 

[StuAzole]

It's normal to hold licenses in multiple states.

Why would you limit yourself to CA anyway?

Is the law different in Oregon or Arizona? I’d bet that no, neither place will deny a license for an arrest without conviction.

 

[StuAzole]

How does CA law deal with FBI background checks?

As it seems thats what employers in healthcare and childcare/teaching like.

Those show anything and everything if you've been printed.

CA law applies to background checks for CA jobs. LiveScan will show all arrest activity but the law dictates what can be considered. There’s even a specific process an employer has to go through w an applicant if they rescind an offer bc of a conviction.

I assumed since you were the one complaining about employers asking about arrests on applications you’d know the rules as they apply to your profession.

 

[casa_mugrienta]

Is the law different in Oregon or Arizona? I’d bet that no, neither place will deny a license for an arrest without conviction.

BON? No.

Employers? Yes.

Again, it's normal not to want to have marks on your record, conviction or not. It's a hassle and it can come back to bite you.

And another thing - HR departments do stuff that violates employment law all the time, they just don't get caught.

I'm not sure why you're so vested in this. Do you have services to offer?