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I use a half Fusion plug and have on every boards since I saw Barry Snyder use them
not a single failure. By Styrofoam I'm assuming you're referring to eps
 
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MrSteve

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All my twinzers have half Fusion canards. No failures. Have a Varial Chemistry Zen 4 on order. Varial can only do FCS X-1 plugs unfortunately. I'm hoping the infused glass will be stronger, but I doubt the glass goes over the plug.
 

need 4 speed

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those are Liv3mind plugs. no longer available(as far as I know)
Probably going to have to do half Fusion. Ropers can probably do for you
 

GMN

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Stu is helping me out and sending me over a dialed in fusion plug. He is extremely generous and his customer service pretty much guaranteed that I will get a board from him this year.
This one is fast, fully has me believing in the twinzer hype. It is a bit big for me and the rails are too full for me to wrap it like I want to but I can tell the board works amazing. It is definitely not a board I have to think about babying turns on. I also haven't even moved the fins yet since there has been swell where I am, so I have only ridden it with them all the way forward in the box, no overlap. At Stu's suggestion I will have the repair done with a 1/4" of overlap.
 

MrSteve

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Have any of you made a jig for a 1/2 Fusion? Do you just get a regular fusion baseplate and somehow block off half of it? I've been shaping a couple twinzers, but all my canards are glass ons, as I only have a Futures jig.
 

need 4 speed

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I made a plywood "plug" for my Fusion jig, George (Liv3mind) sent me his plug when I was getting fin boxes from him. Its much nicer, but either way works
 

MrSteve

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Thanks. Is the Liv3 the same depth as the Fusion? George sent me a couple Liv3 boxes that I still have sitting around
 

GMN

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MrSteve, Stu was pretty adamant that the live boxes would fail. Mine split right down the middle. Sounds like he isn't in favor of using those anymore. I think if/when it fails it'll just be a more difficult repair. I would do the fusion and make some canards with different tab placements if you still wanted to move the canard around
 

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Phil Edwards status
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MrSteve, Stu was pretty adamant that the live boxes would fail. Mine split right down the middle. Sounds like he isn't in favor of using those anymore. I think if/when it fails it'll just be a more difficult repair. I would do the fusion and make some canards with different tab placements if you still wanted to move the canard around
I kind of gave up on them too, which is unfortunate they were definitely a better mouse trap

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grg

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All this talk is making me want to order another. Hmmmm, SK, Gibbons, or...?

Also what happened to the Post "Twinzer Talk". Was lots of good stuff there.