Twinzer Feedback?

[griffinsurfboard]

I'm making fins for one right now .
I have ridden them and Max asked me to help improve his Blue Hawaii ones back when they were doing 120 per week

 

[flyinraptr]

My current favorite setup.



At first the rear keels felt too big but i've grown to like them a lot. The keels have a fair amount of flex in the tips - get kinda of a slingshot effect coming out of the bottom turn with a ton of speed. In direct comparison with or without the front canards - the one thing i notice is that with the canards - it gives you a wider attack angle - especially with the bigger keels - feels less tracky. If you like riding twins - have nothing to lose by adding the front canard plugs - when the conditions are small i sometimes pull the front canards and just ride it as twin.
Canard plugs ...



I do have a set of the Lovelace Piggyback Keels ordered - looking forward to giving those a try.

 

[flyinraptr]

Really interested to see what you're running - board and fins- if you have the time for pics or shaper info?
Long time bonzer disciple here and would love to have an all round good wave twinzer.
Thanks!

Sorry - missed your post earlier ...

The 6'4" ... Barry Snyder - R2 model





The 6'10" - Barry Snyder Apollo model .... with the length you could classify this as a mid-length - love this board - carves amazing and solid in the barrel.

 

[sdsurfrat]

I'm intrigued after enjoying the twin (and 2+1) revival, but there's really not many floating around to try before committing to a new board order. Any ride reports relative to a straight twin, t+trailer.....in a blind taste test do you think you could actually feel the difference vs a straight twin?? Thx

It's my feedback that you don't even know what a Twinzer is...

 

[ghostshaper]

My current favorite setup.



At first the rear keels felt too big but i've grown to like them a lot. The keels have a fair amount of flex in the tips - get kinda of a slingshot effect coming out of the bottom turn with a ton of speed.

I attribute the drive out of a bottom turn to the canard effect. don't get the same drive w/ a straight twin.

 

[kpd73]

Sorry - missed your post earlier ...

The 6'4" ... Barry Snyder - R2 model

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The 6'10" - Barry Snyder Apollo model .... with the length you could classify this as a mid-length - love this board - carves amazing and solid in the barrel.

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That rounded diamond tail on the R2 is very sweet.
Wondering how his Winston Churchill in a 6'3 or 6'5 would fare from this treatment.
Thank you for this.
Sick boards.

 

[need 4 speed]

That rounded diamond tail on the R2 is very sweet.
Wondering how his Winston Churchill in a 6'3 or 6'5 would fare from this treatment.
Thank you for this.
Sick boards.

I like lowish tail rocker Also look at Rebel Yell and MacArther
Barry can hook you up

 

[One-Off]

Sorry - missed your post earlier ...

The 6'4" ... Barry Snyder - R2 model

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The 6'10" - Barry Snyder Apollo model .... with the length you could classify this as a mid-length - love this board - carves amazing and solid in the barrel.

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Sorry if I'm not up to date- what plugs are you using for the canards? They look the size of 4WFS. I contacted them but they did not get back to me. I don't know if they are distributing in the USA. They also have a very limited fin selection.

 

[Swiftvelo]

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Sorry if I'm not up to date- what plugs are you using for the canards? They look the size of 4WFS. I contacted them but they did not get back to me. I don't know if they are distributing in the USA. They also have a very limited fin selection.

Liv3mind was the best but went dark. Hopefully everything is good with George! Barry will cut down a fcs ll plug for canards. I think Barry help design the liv3mind boxes.

 

[need 4 speed]

Cut Fusions in half (Barry's innovation ) first place I saw
Stolen fair and square

 

[griffinsurfboard]

Standard Fusion plug is better - allows movement + a few other good things

 

[ghostshaper]

Sorry if I'm not up to date- what plugs are you using for the canards? They look the size of 4WFS. I contacted them but they did not get back to me. I don't know if they are distributing in the USA. They also have a very limited fin selection.

The last time I bought 4fws plugs, I ordered them online. They shipped from Oz. I'm not sure they're necessary for just canards. They're super useful for mains, though.

I like the FCS fusions for canards. Anything except for c5, really.

No thread is safe from an obligatory Griffin:

This poor boar hasn't seen any action. If the dims fit, PM me and I'll give it up to a good home for a good price. Comes w/ fins made for the boar, haha. Minimal hoof dents.

 

[Swiftvelo]

The last time I bought 4fws plugs, I ordered them online. They shipped from Oz. I'm not sure they're necessary for just canards. They're super useful for mains, though.

I like the FCS fusions for canards. Anything except for c5, really.

No thread is safe from an obligatory Griffin:

This poor boar hasn't seen any action. If the dims fit, PM me and I'll give it up to a good home for a good price. Comes w/ fins made for the boar, haha. Minimal hoof dents.

@ghostshaper love it.

 

[jkb]

Good info about the canard plugs!

For those of you shaping twinzers, do you place the mains further back than you would if you were building a straight twin?

 

[urchined]

Make sure you don’t get the shitty futures boxes for the canard fin. FCS or LIv3mind only.
cant go wrong with the RFC canards. Fins Unlimited makes some too, but i don’t think they sell them without the main fins.

I got lucky there. I texted him yesterday to ask. I had originally asked for futures as that is all I have. Ryan did fusion for the canards. Good shaper move making up for clueless customer. He stayed with futures for main. We had spoken a few weeks after the order about the fin system so I knew not to buy fins as he said he may change it up. He did.

 

[feralseppo]

I got lucky there. I texted him yesterday to ask. I had originally asked for futures as that is all I have. Ryan did fusion for the canards. Good shaper move making up for clueless customer. He stayed with futures for main. We had spoken a few weeks after the order about the fin system so I knew not to buy fins as he said he may change it up. He did.

The Futures c5 canard boxes crack inside in the bottom and you may not notice until it is too late. Ghostshaper mentioned it before. I checked mine on an old board and sure enough.

 

[flyinraptr]

That rounded diamond tail on the R2 is very sweet.
Wondering how his Winston Churchill in a 6'3 or 6'5 would fare from this treatment.
Thank you for this.
Sick boards.

Check his Instagram page - he's posted up different tail variations of both boards. I've been riding his boards for a little while now - he's got some old school influence (Brewer and Aipa) - i've grown accustomed to the soft forgiving rails, wide point forward and pulled in tail. For me - getting up there in age - its all about getting into the wave as early as i can but both handle late drops really well.

 

[flyinraptr]

Sorry if I'm not up to date- what plugs are you using for the canards? They look the size of 4WFS. I contacted them but they did not get back to me. I don't know if they are distributing in the USA. They also have a very limited fin selection.

Here is an Instagram post Barry made with regards to the canard plugs ... i have not had any issues with the canard plugs on either board.
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[ghostshaper]

c5 boxes:

I've lost so many canards due to the grub screw hitting too low on the tabs. I've posted my collection before:

 

[need 4 speed]

@jkb I would think the same position could hold given it's the same type of board, but what do I know
If it were me I'd get canard plugs installed anyway, options(even if unnecessary)
My preference is single Fusion, I like the look better and generally easy enough to adjust to desired placement