Trump says Dominion software deleted 2.7 million Trump votes and handed another 500,000 to Biden

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Did Dominion outsmart themselves?



After November 3, 2020 the only statements I would take seriously coming from Dominion would be statements made under oath on legslative, congressional, or court record. And Dominion already refused one such opportunity.
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You gotta be trollling at this point, not even you is this mentally ill.
 

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Did Dominion outsmart themselves?



After November 3, 2020 the only statements I would take seriously coming from Dominion would be statements made under oath on legslative, congressional, or court record. And Dominion already refused one such opportunity.
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have a WONDERFUL day !! ) :)

 

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Did Dominion outsmart themselves?



After November 3, 2020 the only statements I would take seriously coming from Dominion would be statements made under oath on legslative, congressional, or court record. And Dominion already refused one such opportunity.
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Can't they be forced to if the issue is so important? Why haven't they been?
 

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The riots, lootiing, burning, and police murders would require central organization, planning and cash ....lots of cash.
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squidley, I am so sorry this is happening to you

you're completely wrong on every possible point

everyone can go check that their vote was correctly captured and counted

your articles are garbage and your court cases are being laughed right out the front door
 

Mike_Jones

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Did Dominion outsmart themselves?



After November 3, 2020 the only statements I would take seriously coming from Dominion would be statements made under oath on legslative, congressional, or court record. And Dominion already refused one such opportunity.
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How to cheat, and prevent audits:

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When is a perfect oval evidence of vote fraud?


The presentation takes an interesting turn when Dr. Coomer presents the Imagecast Evolution Ballot Marking Device (BMD) at the 15:00 mark. It functions as an all- in-one (votes, tabulates, and prints the ballot) and Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA) solution as well. ADA voters get a blank ballot to insert and the voter can use any ADA compliant input device attached to the unit or use the device itself. An internal printer marks the ballot for the voter and directly deposits into the ballot collection box. At the 18:30 mark, David Marino states the following (emphasis added)

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Something important, uh, on these marks that are created on the ballot is we have a huge library of handmade marks so it’s not a perfect oval that you are going to be able to identify that that was a mark by a machine. But it’s, it’s ah, it’s a library of different random hand marks that looks like somebody else used a Sharpie to vote the ballot. So you are never going to be able to say this is ah, a ballot voted by the accessible uh voter, this is a ballot voted by a person with a Sharpie for example, for, with the mark.
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Dr. Coomer follows immediately with:

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Yeah, again it’s all about preserving voter anonymity, um you know if, if you only have one or two disabled voters in a given precinct an if you’re using standard marking techniques where they’re, uh uh an exact perfect fill of that oval um you would be able to uh distinguish that ballot from somebody that just hand marked it. So this is one of those further steps that we do um to preserve that anonymity.
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A library of different random marks to avoid a ballot appearing differently from hand marked ballots becomes more critical considering the next segment of his presentation. In other words, their system prints electronically cast ballots that cannot be differentiated from a hand marked ballot.

Let’s move on to the next item of note, the image audit mark. Dr. Coomer continues (emphasis added):

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The other key thing here is what I haven’t talked about, so obviously we take an image of every ballot cast, front and back, but we also have what’s called the audit mark. That’s part of the image and it is a text record of how the scanner actually counted that ballot when it was scanned. So it shows here (points to the number on the image), and there’s, there’s a variety of information that’s included on that. It shows which tabulator it was scanned on, which batch it was created in, and for the ICC (ImageCast Central), because it’s central, it actually gives you the number of the ballot within, within the stack. We do the same uh audit mark creation on the precinct uh devices, but we don’t, we don’t index the paper, again for voter anonymity.
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Dr. Coomer shows an audit mark contiguous to the image of a scanned ballot that indicates a blank vote because the voter circled the candidate names. He makes digital checkmarks of voter intent in the correct spot and adjudicates the ballot on screen, thus updating the audit mark but the original audit mark is not erased. So an adjudicator, on-screen, could divine whatever intent, update the ballot which adds a new audit mark, then move on to the next ballot. All of this happens with a screen and mouse editing an image record but alters the image of the ballot and the audit trail. A digital version of divining the hanging chad, if you will. The remainder is somewhat interesting as he continues with a summary of audit features for recounts, candidate views, and risk-limiting statistical sampling. However, the products he presents are all tied to one election system and did describe their overseas ballot portal for military voters as well.

As I mentioned, let’s not rush to dismiss Dr. Coomer’s remarks outright, let’s learn from the publically available information he has shared and compare that against BMD auditability. As recently as September of this year, a fascinating article was published in the Election Law Journal Volume 19, Number 3 (note: paywall) regarding BMD’s such as the one mentioned above in Dominion’s presentation. The abstract states:

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Voters can make mistakes in expressing their intent in either technology, but only BMDs are also subject to hacking, bugs, and misconfiguration of the software that prints the marked ballots. Most voters do not review BMD-printed ballots, and those who do often fail to notice when the printed vote is not what they expressed on the touchscreen. Furthermore, there is no action a voter can take to demonstrate to election officials that a BMD altered their expressed votes, nor is there a corrective action that election officials can take if notified by voters—there is no way to deter, contain, or correct computer hacking in BMDs. These are the essential security flaws of BMDs.

Risk-limiting audits can ensure that the votes recorded on paper ballots are tabulated correctly, but no audit can ensure that the votes on paper are the ones expressed by the voter on a touchscreen: Elections conducted on current BMDs cannot be confirmed by audits. We identify two properties of voting systems, contestability and defensibility, necessary for audits to confirm election outcomes. No available BMD certified by the Election Assistance Commission is contestable or defensible.
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There is a double-edged sword to technology that mimics hand marking for the sake of anonymity. I am terribly curious to hear if any ballots in the statistically impossible contested ballot dumps have perfect standard oval marks where Dominion’s library of hand marks was used? Could the thieves have outsmarted themselves? [sie=4]Were the adjudicators relying solely on Dominion’s adjudication ballot recognition software that fails to detect anomalies while rushing through ballot images too fast to tell anything was amiss?[/size] Can Dominion’s software correctly distinguish fraudulent ballots that are too perfect? All in the name of voter anonymity. Are we certain the fraud is not anonymous as well? Time will tell.
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As an election official, all you have to do is take out your little security card and "reinterpret" what a voter really meant to do.

Wink wink.
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kidfury

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I've read 3% of what you've posted, which is the approproximate margin of victory of Biden over trump.
 

Mike_Jones

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I've read 3% of what you've posted, which is the approproximate margin of victory of Biden over trump.

We’ve been hearing complaints from Giuliani et al that they’ve seen thousands of ballots with pristine machine-generated-looking marks. From this video this phenomenon appears when an election official uses his little Dominion security card, accesses an executed ballot, and revises it to read the way the voter intended .....wink wink.

The process bypasses the random human-looking-mark generator, and replaces it with a pristine machine-generated-looking mark.
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enframed

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We’ve been hearing complaints from Giuliani et al that they’ve seen thousands of ballots with pristine machine-generated-looking marks. From this video this phenomenon appears when an election official uses his little Dominion security card, accesses an executed ballot, and revises it to read the way the voter intended .....wink wink.

The process bypasses the random human-looking-mark generator, and replaces it with a pristine machine-generated-looking mark.
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Yes, you are right, we have been hearing that from Giuliani et al.
 

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We’ve been hearing complaints from Giuliani et al that they’ve seen thousands of ballots with pristine machine-generated-looking marks. From this video this phenomenon appears when an election official uses his little Dominion security card, accesses an executed ballot, and revises it to read the way the voter intended .....wink wink.

The process bypasses the random human-looking-mark generator, and replaces it with a pristine machine-generated-looking mark.
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You never answered the question if the GOP investigated votes where trump won.

Well, did they?
 

Mike_Jones

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In sworn statement, prominent mathematician flags up to 100,000 Pennsylvania ballots

In a sworn declaration, a respected mathematician says his analysis of election data and phone interviews with Pennsylvania voters raises questions about as many as 100,000 absentee ballots requested in the key battleground state where President Trump and Joe Biden are separated by just about 82,000 votes.

Williams College Professor Steven Miller, a Yale and Princeton trained math expert, said he analyzed Pennsylvania ballot data.....

....."I estimate that the number of ballots that were either requested by someone other than the registered Republican or requested and returned but not counted range from 89,397 to 98,801," Miller said in the sworn statement provided to Just the News.

According to Pennsylvania state data for early and absentee ballot requests, there are roughly 165,000 ballots requested in the names of registered GOP voters that had not been counted as of Nov. 16.

Federal Election Commission Chairman Trey Trainor told Just the News that Miller's analysis provides fresh evidence of potential voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election.

"This data, which is provided by an expert witness, who would be qualified in almost any court in the country, adds to the conclusions that some level of voter fraud took place in this year's election," Trainor said.
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In sworn statement, prominent mathematician flags up to 100,000 Pennsylvania ballots

In a sworn declaration, a respected mathematician says his analysis of election data and phone interviews with Pennsylvania voters raises questions about as many as 100,000 absentee ballots requested in the key battleground state where President Trump and Joe Biden are separated by just about 82,000 votes.

Williams College Professor Steven Miller, a Yale and Princeton trained math expert, said he analyzed Pennsylvania ballot data.....

....."I estimate that the number of ballots that were either requested by someone other than the registered Republican or requested and returned but not counted range from 89,397 to 98,801," Miller said in the sworn statement provided to Just the News.

According to Pennsylvania state data for early and absentee ballot requests, there are roughly 165,000 ballots requested in the names of registered GOP voters that had not been counted as of Nov. 16.

Federal Election Commission Chairman Trey Trainor told Just the News that Miller's analysis provides fresh evidence of potential voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election.

"This data, which is provided by an expert witness, who would be qualified in almost any court in the country, adds to the conclusions that some level of voter fraud took place in this year's election," Trainor said.
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haha
 

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more cult clickbait - who is Trey Trainor, relative to the process of counting votes? besides being an enthusiastic cult member, he's absolutely nobody:

Who is Trey Trainor, and what is the FEC?

Trainor is the chair of the Federal Election Commission. He is not its "Chief Electoral Officer," as RecentlyHeard.com wrote — that role doesn't exist.

The Federal Election Commission is tasked with enforcing federal campaign finance laws. Its duties include monitoring restrictions and limits on campaign contributions, and overseeing public funding for presidential campaigns, per USA.Gov.

"States typically have primary responsibility for making decisions about the rules of elections (policymaking)," the report explains. "Localities typically have primary responsibility for conducting elections in accordance with those rules (implementation)."

In fact, in his appearance on Newsmax, Trainor acknowledged that he had not been briefed on the matter.

"We really haven't been briefed on any of it given that we don't — you know, the states control the elections and the FEC really doesn't have any jurisdiction over how these are being handled at the state level," he said. "For the federal level, they would communicate through the Election Assistance Commission."

(U.S. Election Assistance Commissioner Ben Hovland called false claims about the election "baffling," "laughable" and "insulting," per CNN.)

Trainor is a Republican lawyer who advised Trump in 2016. He was nominated by Trump in 2017, though he was not confirmed by the Senate until May 2020, according to the Washington Post. In September, Trainor called the upcoming contest between Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden a "spiritual war." "It is striking at the underlying foundations of our constitutional republic,” he said, per the Washington Post. “It’s getting rid of the Christian moral principles that are the basis of the foundation of the country." .
 

Mike_Jones

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more cult clickbait - who is Trey Trainor, relative to the process of counting votes? besides being an enthusiastic cult member, he's absolutely nobody:

If I were to call someone an official surfermag poster would you snivel that no such position exists? No, no such position exists .......by name. But the position exists anyway, and the subject poster fills it, idiot.
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afoaf

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you know squidley is falling apart when he starts calling OTHER PEOPLE idiots and liars

can you imagine putting this much energy in to an utterly INSANE conspiracy theory? (no offense, Bohter)
 
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