Tomo MPH

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I love the feel of a thruster because of the amount of control they have. At the same time, I love the feel of the quads and twins especially in those minimalistic templates for the out of control speed they have
....You nailed it Havoc. I have ridden both Hydrofoils/MPH designs..
Here's my .02: The MPH / Hydrofoil designs are super fun for the average guy wanting to get from point A to point B really fast. It's advantage are many: easy to ride, fast off the gate, great wave catching ability for a smaller board, and small volume - allows you to throw it around a bit....great for lined up/walled up waves that allows you to beat sections without much pumping or effort. This appeals to many.
But i have surfed it in peaky, good, barrelling waves and it has a hard time staying in the barrell...i remember stalling, changing foot positioning, and dragging both arms in order to get a cover up , but its inherent speed made it hard. Also, i find that surfing in the pocket is definitely a bit of a challenge too. And, for me the pumping that is require in traditional hpsb quads/tri's allows me to get into the rhythm and feel out the energy of a wave, which is a good thing...not just blazing fast speed.
It definitely has its place in a quiver, and would definitely get another ...but there are many other fishy types shapes that does pretty much the same thing.

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I love the feel of a thruster because of the amount of control they have. At the same time, I love the feel of the quads and twins especially in those minimalistic templates for the out of control speed they have
....You nailed it Havoc. I have ridden both Hydrofoils/MPH designs..
Here's my .02: The MPH / Hydrofoil designs are super fun for the average guy wanting to get from point A to point B really fast. It's advantage are many: easy to ride, fast off the gate, great wave catching ability for a smaller board, and small volume - allows you to throw it around a bit....great for lined up/walled up waves that allows you to beat sections without much pumping or effort. This appeals to many.
But i have surfed it in peaky, good, barrelling waves and it has a hard time staying in the barrell...i remember stalling, changing foot positioning, and dragging both arms in order to get a cover up , but its inherent speed made it hard. Also, i find that surfing in the pocket is definitely a bit of a challenge too. And, for me the pumping that is require in traditional hpsb quads/tri's allows me to get into the rhythm and feel out the energy of a wave, which is a good thing...not just blazing fast speed.
It definitely has its place in a quiver, and would definitely get another ...but there are many other fishy types shapes that does pretty much the same thing.

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I completely agree with all of the above but I have owned a lot of other fishy shapes with many different fin types and bottom configurations but the MPH feels very different in a positive way than any of the others.
 

jellyjam

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Thanks for your trouble mate.
Interesting to see. I thought the rocker would be more severe with the planshape the way it is but i guess it is only 5'7''...
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nickpheous

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took the board out today in some really clean peaky waves today. this board is ridiculous. so fast it seems like i don't have to do anything for speed. did some of my best turns in a while. lots of wrap arounds and snaps. i cant wait to get back in the water <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

and retodd's twinzer is the sh!t <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/socrazy.gif" alt="" />
 

jellyjam

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Its probably easier for you to get one of these than me and I live in his home state!!!
Our surf industry (in Australia) is so small and the boutique guys just don't get much of a look in. Its a shame because we have so much awesome untouched coastline just waiting to surf and try out new boards!
Does that single concave exit the tail as deep as it is at the fins? I read that he made mention of more 'edge' further up the board. How far does he carry it on the model you have?
Thanks for sharing...
 

Norsemann

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Tomo MPH Nano
5’9x 19x 2.5
Future 5-fin convertible
*I’d measure nose/tail, but its so unique on these I don’t know where to measure.
Medium/Boxy rails
Me: 6’3x 180lb, goofy, intermediate-above average.

I’ve had this board out 3 times now, in a variety of breaks, conditions, &amp; fin set-ups.

First Session: Goldenwest,, light onshores, chest-shoulder high on 3’ mid-tide.
I rode the AMT Robber 2+1’s the first time out. I certainly didn’t get the most out of this setup, since I spent most of the morning dialing in my positioning, foot placement, where to setup trying to get on a rail. Super-loose &amp; fast as hell, I should have gone for more control the first time out. By the end of the day, I was getting into waves way earlier than I ever have, and driving through the peak carrying tons of speed. Had way more fun on the lefts, getting big fades into laybacks off the mushy sections, and throwing it off the top when I found a punchy one.

Second Session: Lowers, breezy onshores, chest-head high, mid-tide.
Rode a set of Canard Quads. Crazy bite on these. I figured the tail was wide enough to work with these fins, and I’m pleased with the result. Great control on some sectiony rights, really fun to get it snappy on some backside turns. Not the greatest conditions, but I got double the waves I usually do thanks to a small crowd and a board that gets in super-early.

Third Session: This morning @ Andy St. Offshore, chest-shoulder high, mid-tide on the way out.
Rode the AMT’s again, this time they were jamming. Found a sandbar that was connecting if you could carry enough speed. This board gets bottom-to-top in a heartbeat, not something I’ve ever felt in a board that planes with a ton of speed. The AMT’s felt so smooth, no tracking or spin-outs, just bouncing up the shoulder and cutting back to punch the foam. It made what should have been a crap-tide feel like a skate park.

I didn’t expect this to be so much fun in beach breaks. I had in mind a board that I could take out at points &amp; reefs to have a lot of fun &amp; up my wave counts. At this point, I imagine that I’m going to log a lot of time in OC instead of driving the extra hour either way.
 

dickc

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any body have a v-3 mph dual,if so how fast is it,how does it catch waves,paddel,how loose is it,drive etc.how does it ride in the tube?trying to pick a model is driving me nuts.
 

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any body have a v-3 mph dual,if so how fast is it,how does it catch waves,paddel,how loose is it,drive etc.how does it ride in the tube?trying to pick a model is driving me nuts.
I have the v3 mph dual. can't compare it to his others but I took my hull out yesterday because the waves were small and I was looking for a change. After 30 minutes I got out and walked back to get the tomo.

The tomo is almost as smooth as my hull, has the nice glide and as you are feeling the lov'n groove you can then smack the sht out of the wave. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
as for your questions: very stable on steep face or rampy wave. Just don't be afraid to order smaller than you think.
 

retodd

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full carbon bottom <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> , stringerless EPS !

damn .
 

nickpheous

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Its probably easier for you to get one of these than me and I live in his home state!!!
Our surf industry (in Australia) is so small and the boutique guys just don't get much of a look in. Its a shame because we have so much awesome untouched coastline just waiting to surf and try out new boards!
Does that single concave exit the tail as deep as it is at the fins? I read that he made mention of more 'edge' further up the board. How far does he carry it on the model you have?
Thanks for sharing...

the single lookes deepest between the fins but does go out the tail. the pic i took is washed out but there is a channel cut out that acts like the split tail of the v2. there is that tucked edge going most of the way up the board but not nearly like his hydrafoil boards. the nose to about the 12" mark is more bladey like a hull.

any body have a v-3 mph dual,if so how fast is it,how does it catch waves,paddel,how loose is it,drive etc.how does it ride in the tube?trying to pick a model is driving me nuts.
its ridiculous fast. you don't have to do anything for speed. in fact dt told me to just stand there on the first wave, foot back all the way and let the board do the work. speed is not an issue, but because the board is so small/narrow its squirrely at first. not an issue now but my first few waves (head high) the board felt out of control at times. now its so smooth and i feel like i'm in the wave so much quicker with speed to burn that i'm going farther out into the flats and going more vertical than i normally would. i have more time to set things up i guess.

to answer the other questions, yes it catches waves very easy, sticks late drops better than any other board i have. very loose due to the size of the board. very drivey but you'll find you don't have to do much for speed. as for riding the tube, i've only driven through a few closeouts tubes but it definely works in the barrel. helps that it does late steep drops so well. as for which model, if your looking for more of a barrel rider dual mph maybe the v1 or v2 would be a better choice because you'll get more directional control with those. this one does it also, but is more of an all arounder from knee to hh. this thing has way more range than i was expecting. love this board.
 

chrispalmer

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I'm keen to know/see the rocker and bottom profile on these things. Is the rocker flat through the tail like a mini sim? And, also like a mini sim, is there belly to flat to single concave through the fins?
Reason I ask is that I recently shaped my first board - a mini simm. I stuck to the Hydrodynamica recipe of short, very wide (23"!!) and flat with belly to flat to concave between two double foiled keels. The thing is an absolute blast and has replaced my mini mal for crap days. I'm thinking my next project will be a similar recipe, but more HP - like the MPHs. But we'll see <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I predict I may get round to it in about 1 year at earliest!
a little bit of belly entry to single out the tail.

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