Everyone on here seems to have a story of someone they know who had a bad experience. El Ogro and SurfFuerteventura are the only posters who seem to have first hand experience.
I haven't done it myself but living in a tropical environment I have Chacruna and Banisteriopsis caapi growing which are the two main ingredients of Ayahuasca tea. I also have the two trees used by the indigenous Amerindians: Anadenathera Colubrina and Anedenathera pergrine growing. (Also have a big Kratom tree Autoprax).
I will experiment with them when the time is right.
Now my take on all that I have read on this thread is first of all none of you opining on this have direct experience. Second, you are looking at these substances through a modern lens. While we have many modern day conveniences which makes life much easier than our ancestors, our overall mental states are much degraded and continue to do so. Somehow our brains have adapted to the phones, social media, electrified everything, rapid transportation etc. But I think what happens when you take some of these drugs is the adaptation breaks down and the brain becomes overwhelmed.
Now when you look at how many indigenous peoples used mind altering substances as gateways to other realms, I think there is something to that. But these are people who achieved great wisdom in other areas as well without the benefits of modernity.
So yes, most modern humans are probably not safe taking these things because it causes mental overload. Our brains are working so hard all the time to regulate all the over sensory aspects of technology. But with the right approach and mental states, and guides, I think some profound things can occur and SurfFuerteventura alluded to this, one of the only ones on here with direct experience. It should also be noted that he lives outside of the crazy modern world.
I haven't done it myself but living in a tropical environment I have Chacruna and Banisteriopsis caapi growing which are the two main ingredients of Ayahuasca tea. I also have the two trees used by the indigenous Amerindians: Anadenathera Colubrina and Anedenathera pergrine growing. (Also have a big Kratom tree Autoprax).
I will experiment with them when the time is right.
Now my take on all that I have read on this thread is first of all none of you opining on this have direct experience. Second, you are looking at these substances through a modern lens. While we have many modern day conveniences which makes life much easier than our ancestors, our overall mental states are much degraded and continue to do so. Somehow our brains have adapted to the phones, social media, electrified everything, rapid transportation etc. But I think what happens when you take some of these drugs is the adaptation breaks down and the brain becomes overwhelmed.
Now when you look at how many indigenous peoples used mind altering substances as gateways to other realms, I think there is something to that. But these are people who achieved great wisdom in other areas as well without the benefits of modernity.
So yes, most modern humans are probably not safe taking these things because it causes mental overload. Our brains are working so hard all the time to regulate all the over sensory aspects of technology. But with the right approach and mental states, and guides, I think some profound things can occur and SurfFuerteventura alluded to this, one of the only ones on here with direct experience. It should also be noted that he lives outside of the crazy modern world.
