The market is pretty clear that people want Tesla’s. Like I said before they just released an “affordable” Tesla. A small run of pre ordered vehicles were filled, and they have a down payments on thousands of these vehiclss.
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I won't argue that, but lets hope they can deliver without us having to bail them out like we did with GM and Chrysler.manbearpig said:The market is pretty clear that people want Tesla’s. Like I said before they just released an “affordable” Tesla. A small run of pre ordered vehicles were filled, and they have a down payments on thousands of these vehiclss.
BY what metric? Tesla sales are a rounding error in the automotive space. By a huge, overwhelming percentage people have spoken and they have rejected Tesla or any other electric car.manbearpig said:The market is pretty clear that people want Tesla’s. Like I said before they just released an “affordable” Tesla. A small run of pre ordered vehicles were filled, and they have a down payments on thousands of these vehiclss.
Oh this will be fun.GromsDad said:Why not let the market decide? I welcome any auto maker who makes a product I want at a price I can afford. I'm all for that. Needs to be big enough for my needs, be convenient to drive and refuel, needs to have adequate power, safe, comfortable to drive and affordable up front and total cost of ownership. Bring it on. Make a better mouse trap. Reap the rewards.
Mind-blowingly clueless.ifallalot said:Let me know when I can get real 1080p, or hell, real 1080i at home and I'll concede the 4K point.
You can edit in 4 or 8K all day long and it doesn't mean sh!t if the end user doesn't watch it in 4K.
Average home internet speeds should tell you all you need to know about people getting real 4K at home.
The enthusiast crowd doesn't mean sh!t when it comes to bulk numbers
ifallalot said:These dorks need to get on top of fusion as well. That would take care of nuclear waste more and get where we need to go with space travel
EnthusiastFecalFace said:Mind-blowingly clueless.ifallalot said:Let me know when I can get real 1080p, or hell, real 1080i at home and I'll concede the 4K point.
You can edit in 4 or 8K all day long and it doesn't mean sh!t if the end user doesn't watch it in 4K.
Average home internet speeds should tell you all you need to know about people getting real 4K at home.
The enthusiast crowd doesn't mean sh!t when it comes to bulk numbers
You need to learn resolution and compression basics before we can talk.
What is it that you do for a living again?
Stick to deadlifts, steroid boi.VonMeister said:EnthusiastFecalFace said:Mind-blowingly clueless.ifallalot said:Let me know when I can get real 1080p, or hell, real 1080i at home and I'll concede the 4K point.
You can edit in 4 or 8K all day long and it doesn't mean sh!t if the end user doesn't watch it in 4K.
Average home internet speeds should tell you all you need to know about people getting real 4K at home.
The enthusiast crowd doesn't mean sh!t when it comes to bulk numbers
You need to learn resolution and compression basics before we can talk.
What is it that you do for a living again?
4K is for vloggers.
The Triggered Terrorist of Terramar. You've peaked. Time to make a life decision.FecalFace said:Stick to deadlifts, steroid boi.VonMeister said:EnthusiastFecalFace said:Mind-blowingly clueless.ifallalot said:Let me know when I can get real 1080p, or hell, real 1080i at home and I'll concede the 4K point.
You can edit in 4 or 8K all day long and it doesn't mean sh!t if the end user doesn't watch it in 4K.
Average home internet speeds should tell you all you need to know about people getting real 4K at home.
The enthusiast crowd doesn't mean sh!t when it comes to bulk numbers
You need to learn resolution and compression basics before we can talk.
What is it that you do for a living again?
4K is for vloggers.
Sure, but has it ever been a level playing field? Gov't bailed out GM. And I'm sure oil and gas companies never received subsidies or tax credits. :wink2:ifallalot said:Exactly.GromsDad said:Why not let the market decide? I welcome any auto maker who makes a product I want at a price I can afford. I'm all for that. Needs to be big enough for my needs, be convenient to drive and refuel, needs to have adequate power, safe, comfortable to drive and affordable up front and total cost of ownership. Bring it on. Make a better mouse trap. Reap the rewards.
They'll probably get there soon, but the electric cars are nowhere near as convenient and affordable as a normal car.
People jerk themselves off over Teslas but that company is literally stealing from poor people and giving it to rich people in order for the company to stay solvent. Crony capitalism is bad regardless
Ifall has a boner for Musk, that's all.Phi1 said:Sure, but has it ever been a level playing field? Gov't bailed out GM. And I'm sure oil and gas companies never received subsidies or tax credits. :wink2:ifallalot said:Exactly.GromsDad said:Why not let the market decide? I welcome any auto maker who makes a product I want at a price I can afford. I'm all for that. Needs to be big enough for my needs, be convenient to drive and refuel, needs to have adequate power, safe, comfortable to drive and affordable up front and total cost of ownership. Bring it on. Make a better mouse trap. Reap the rewards.
They'll probably get there soon, but the electric cars are nowhere near as convenient and affordable as a normal car.
People jerk themselves off over Teslas but that company is literally stealing from poor people and giving it to rich people in order for the company to stay solvent. Crony capitalism is bad regardless
I know all about both resolution and compression, the fact that you think you can get the real thing about home outside of a file-based system shows you don't know anything about it. And even then unless you're packing hundreds of terabytes you probably have it squeezed down and wrapped up in some codec. Once something is compressed, its not the real deal anymore.FecalFace said:Mind-blowingly clueless.ifallalot said:Let me know when I can get real 1080p, or hell, real 1080i at home and I'll concede the 4K point.
You can edit in 4 or 8K all day long and it doesn't mean sh!t if the end user doesn't watch it in 4K.
Average home internet speeds should tell you all you need to know about people getting real 4K at home.
The enthusiast crowd doesn't mean sh!t when it comes to bulk numbers
You need to learn resolution and compression basics before we can talk.
What is it that you do for a living again?
It would actually be free-market capitalism and it would actually work as intended.hal9000 said:Where would free-market capitalism be without gub'ment subsidies?
https://www.thebalance.com/government-subsidies-definition-farm-oil-export-etc-3305788
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/03/17/the-united-states-of-subsidies-the-biggest-corporate-winners-in-each-state/?utm_term=.91c21ad46891
https://www.salon.com/2016/12/27/taxpayer-funded-capitalism-here-are-the-biggest-corporate-subsidy-deals-of-2016/
You don't understand the basics of compression.ifallalot said:I know all about both resolution and compression, the fact that you think you can get the real thing about home outside of a file-based system shows you don't know anything about it. And even then unless you're packing hundreds of terabytes you probably have it squeezed down and wrapped up in some codec. Once something is compressed, its not the real deal anymore.FecalFace said:Mind-blowingly clueless.ifallalot said:Let me know when I can get real 1080p, or hell, real 1080i at home and I'll concede the 4K point.
You can edit in 4 or 8K all day long and it doesn't mean sh!t if the end user doesn't watch it in 4K.
Average home internet speeds should tell you all you need to know about people getting real 4K at home.
The enthusiast crowd doesn't mean sh!t when it comes to bulk numbers
You need to learn resolution and compression basics before we can talk.
What is it that you do for a living again?
For example, your basic 1080i HDSDI signal has a bitrate of 1.5 gb/s. Do you have that big of a pipe into your house?
You can have all the resolution you want, but until its moving, its just a photo