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Sub Driver 2.0
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Thanks for the input.
Seems to track with what I’m learning: the SB is a versatile shape in the lower wave range. Which unfortunately isn’t really what I need right now.
I've never really redlined my Sub Driver in terms of hold (bro-dims squash 1.0). I had it in what I would call a little overhead on some trips - size disclaimer I am an East Coaster.
If your primary concern is HPSB need push to not be turds, that kind of sounds like HPSB tend to be under-volumed or over-rockered. Avoid those two situations.
"Short period inconsistent shape" that sounds like flatter faces?
Do you have no problems chasing down shifting goldilocks takeoff spots (assumption my own) in 1.5xOH on MPSB?
It obviously depends on the wave, but if you looking for something to perform well in 1.5OH waves I would pick driver over subdriver. If you are riding real short period waves at that size I would choose a different shape altogether.
Love it. This is like like going to therapy for the anxiety of surf board selection.
Over rockered/under volumed has been real which is why I’m striving to avoid th situations. Full rails can be tough for me in fast surf too.
I have a lot of shitty beach break that can show many personalities on a single wave let alone within a session. Late drop to soft shoulder to double up close out, soft takeoff to milking it until it jams on a bar and runs, and everything in between except lined up consistency.
Some points and reefs too that are more consistent when they break, and can have proper good surf, but those days are fewer.
I can say that I’m actually pretty good at finding and getting waves, and boards in this category I’ve had haven’t impeded that process.
Have you ever tried an HS Untitled? It's a really good, versatile all-arounder that can handle a wide range of conditions. The rails are a little fuller and the deck is a bit flatter than I would typically look for in a board but despite those features I was pleasantly surprised with how hp it was while being user friendly at the same time. Sounds like it would really suit what you're describing here.
You can order them custom if you want.......don't have to get a pop-out version.
I guess I looked past the Sabotaj as its outline and tail screamed hollow reef to me. But some research suggests perhaps this pony has more than one trick?
In fact I read an older thread where Koolaid and Freeride76 both review it, differently, but favourably.
Board Review: Lost Sabotaj
It's been ages since I've posted up a board review and wanted to shout out what felt like standout this past shred season. As soon as I saw the Sabotaj, I was stoked on the look and knew exactly what I wanted to do with it. I've always been a fan of the rock up, mini driver type boards that...
forum.surfer.com
Actually went back to my Sabotaj - this time as a quad- and really enjoyed it, all over again.
very good shortboard.
Just has a bit too much overlap for me with specialised good wave borts- but if I was allowed one board to take to Indo would definitely consider.
very good shortboard.
Just has a bit too much overlap for me with specialised good wave borts- but if I was allowed one board to take to Indo would definitely consider.
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sub driver 2.0 swallow 5'11 x 19.5 x 2.44
driver 2.0 round 6'2 x 19.25 x 2.44
both around 30l
me 1.88m at 80kg (6'2 at 175lbs in freedom units)
driver is 4+4/6 with carbon strip, SD regular 4+4/4
really stoked how the came out.
I surfed a 5'9 swallow uber driver and a 6'1 squash driver 2.0 for the last year and a half, figured those two would give me even more range. the uber driver had a pretty narrow sweet spot regarding wave size and shape, I'm hoping that the sub driver has a similar bottom end but holds the rail a bit better when there's some push. really, really liked the driver squash though, i hope it feels just as magic with an extra inch and a round tail.
well, covid will keep me landlocked for a another month or so
such a sick duo bro, how they goin?
I also read your glowing review of the pyzalien 2. Would love to hear your opinions on the two.
@Leonardo
The sub driver was one of my all time favorite boards for sure. Rode it until it fell apart...I went on to try some other boards but will definitely order another one at some point.
The driver round was meant as a semi step up and went just fine, but I switched to a ghost for the more solid days. I do have a shorter, wider driver 2 squash as hpsb now though.
Big fan of the driver series, will have to have a look at the yet to be released stub 3.0 driver too (sits between driver and sub driver if there even is a niche)
The sub driver was one of my all time favorite boards for sure. Rode it until it fell apart...I went on to try some other boards but will definitely order another one at some point.
The driver round was meant as a semi step up and went just fine, but I switched to a ghost for the more solid days. I do have a shorter, wider driver 2 squash as hpsb now though.
Big fan of the driver series, will have to have a look at the yet to be released stub 3.0 driver too (sits between driver and sub driver if there even is a niche)
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if you can get your hands on a Pyzalien2, that board would most certainly be what you're looking for IMO
The Sabotaj is an awesome all-around hp shortboard.
Can definitely say from experience that the Sabotaj is highly capable from SH to HH+.
I had one that was 6'1 x 19.25 x 2.6 at 33.2L (I think) and it was an excellent board for solid waves at OB.
Can definitely say from experience that the Sabotaj is highly capable from SH to HH+.
I had one that was 6'1 x 19.25 x 2.6 at 33.2L (I think) and it was an excellent board for solid waves at OB.