So CA isn't allowed to set its own emissions standards anymore?
Where are the states' rights people on this one?
Where are the states' rights people on this one?
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States rights......unless it comes out of the tailpipe.
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negative.
they were, however, complaining about the Trump administration
rolling back the CAFE standards
you gotta wonder what the motivation for a move like this when
even the manufacturers don't want the regs relaxed.
Automakers snub Trump to side with climate crisis, says Obama-era official
Companies are considering years of regulatory uncertainty when aligning with California’s mileage standards deal
www.theguardian.com
Nothing is stopping auto makers from making more efficient cars.negative.
they were, however, complaining about the Trump administration
rolling back the CAFE standards
you gotta wonder what the motivation for a move like this when
even the manufacturers don't want the regs relaxed.
Automakers snub Trump to side with climate crisis, says Obama-era official
Companies are considering years of regulatory uncertainty when aligning with California’s mileage standards deal
and, yet, when they chose to disregard the relaxed standards in
pursuit of greater efficiency, they were hit with an anti-trust lawsuit
by the justice department...
Making cars more efficient doesn't make money, it costs money.
They want profit, not green planet, dum dum.
FREE MARKUT REEEEE
Ok, so no lawsuit exists. DOJ (according to “a source”) is looking into whether anti-trust laws were broken when auto makers colluded to all do the same things in regard to emissions.
That might actually have been illegal. Or not.
Generally when a bunch of companies get together and agree to certain terms in order to stifle competition that’s a no no. At the very least it should be looked into, which is what is being done.
As far as the emissions rules go, my personal opinion is that CA should be able to do what we want.
That being said, even Obama realized that CA setting its own standard was illegal and that’s why a waver was granted. If California has the legal right to set its own standards under federal law then no waver would be needed.
yes, correct, a suit was NOT filed, but they are being investigated for cartel'in
I think Obama granted the waiver because he knew California would be the tail
that wagged the dog, allowing him to get more stringent standards nationally
than he would have been otherwise able to negotiate outright.
I think Obama granted the waiver because he knew California would be the tail
that wagged the dog, allowing him to get more stringent standards nationally
than he would have been otherwise able to negotiate outright.
Yes, that’s WHY he granted the wavier. But there would be no need for such a wavier if CA had the legal right to act on its own, which it did not.
This is AGAIN one of those things where a president (Obama) wielded power he shouldn’t have and nobody objected because “we all liked” what he did with that power. Well now the precedent has set and another president (Trump) is wielding THE SAME POWER and everyone who cheered the previous exercise of that power are all in huff.
Never forget (and I’ll keep beating this horse until I die) any power you allow the government to have will someday be in the hands of someone you don’t like.
And here we are right now.
The solution?
Don’t hand over so much power.
This is literally Trump ignoring the free market...
www.latimes.com
www.npr.org
Trump says automakers are 'crazy' to side with California. They don't need another fight
Trump wants to dump Obama-era emissions regulations. Auto industry seeks regulatory certainty to guide future investment.
www.latimes.com
California Signs Deal With Automakers To Produce Fuel-Efficient Cars
The agreement is different from plans expected to be announced by the Trump administration that would weaken national emissions standards.
www.npr.org
Can't wait until we find out the real reason behind this push to relax emissions standards, whatever the reason may be.This is literally Trump ignoring the free market...
Trump says automakers are 'crazy' to side with California. They don't need another fight
Trump wants to dump Obama-era emissions regulations. Auto industry seeks regulatory certainty to guide future investment.
California Signs Deal With Automakers To Produce Fuel-Efficient Cars
The agreement is different from plans expected to be announced by the Trump administration that would weaken national emissions standards.
The key is to create uncertainty.
Its the sign of a good leader.
Good things just happen as a result.
They fan out through the system.
Its the sign of a good leader.
Good things just happen as a result.
They fan out through the system.