STASI, US Style...Obama's National Civilian Marxist Police Force

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carrying on casa's theme...can't believe this made the AP with only minimally biased reporting. btw, obama's proposal is NOTHING like what bush proposed, and that should have been made distinct.

Georgia congressman warns of Obama dictatorship

Nov 10 08:46 PM US/Eastern
By BEN EVANS
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist dictatorship.
"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may—may not, I hope not—but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism."

Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.

"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."

Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado in which he called for expanding the nation's foreign service.

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

The Obama transition team declined to comment on Broun's remarks. But spokesman Tommy Vietor said Obama was referring in the speech to a proposal for a civilian reserve corps that could handle postwar reconstruction efforts such as rebuilding infrastructure—an idea endorsed by the Bush administration.

Broun said he believes Obama would move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national security force.

Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally.

"We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential of going down that road."
 

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Yes, I'm sure we'll have a Gestapo like security force now that Obama's in office. Get ready for it <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Hypothetically (very hypothetical) speaking, even if Obama clearly said, "I am going to start a Gestapo-like National Security force", it will never happen because for better or worse, Americans couldn't pull off that kind of organized effort.
 

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amazing!

the left will get their panties in a wad over tapped phone calls from known terrorists which are originating abroad to within our borders, but this gets barely a yawn!

excuse me, but ACORN is pretty organized, and these are the types of community organization groups that will eagerly be inlisted in this effort.

its all going just like saul alinsky planned.

wow.
 

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ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, is a community-based organization that advocates for low- and moderate-income families by working on neighborhood safety, voter registration, health care, affordable housing, and other social issues.
Those Marxist bastards!!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cussing.gif" alt="" />
 

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ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, is a community-based organization that advocates for low- and moderate-income families by working on neighborhood safety, voter registration, health care, affordable housing, and other social issues.
Those Marxist bastards!!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cussing.gif" alt="" />
you do know that there are big overlaps with acorn, nation of islam, and various black separtists / militants / marxists, don't you?
 

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btw, obama's proposal is NOTHING like what bush proposed, and that should have been made distinct.
Could you provide some comparisons of what each is proposing? Bush's reference to a civilian force was, from what I've read, just as vague as Obama's - but Obama's suggestion seems to have a lot of people crapping their pants. Obviously, I've missed the detailed information that Obama must have laid out to elicit such a strong reaction.

Thanks in advance.
 

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ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, is a community-based organization that advocates for low- and moderate-income families by working on neighborhood safety, voter registration, health care, affordable housing, and other social issues.
Those Marxist bastards!!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cussing.gif" alt="" />
you do know that there are big overlaps with acorn, nation of islam, and various black separtists / militants / marxists, don't you?
Its not the NSA we should be worried about.

Its the community organizers &lt;shudder&gt;!
 

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Yes, I'm sure we'll have a Gestapo like security force now that Obama's in office. Get ready for it <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Hypothetically (very hypothetical) speaking, even if Obama clearly said, "I am going to start a Gestapo-like National Security force", it will never happen because for better or worse, Americans couldn't pull off that kind of organized effort.
I think you're being naive here.

I think most of the people on this board are naive to this, because they are mostly white and upper-middle class and are completly unaware what's happening to the ghetto, which has developed a "YES WE DID! (STICK IT TO WHITEY)" philosophy. This has not been a defeat of racism, it has been a reinforcement of racism. But the center-liberal white middle-upper class doesn't get it cause they don't live it.

The rules have been bent for Obama. Exemple. My girlfriend teaches in an arts elementary school in an urban neighborhood. About 50% black, 50% white student population, with 90% of the teachers being black. Normal policy in the public school system = NO POLITICAL CRAP. Don't wear it, don't talk about it. But pretty much every teacher there has been wearing Obama tshirts, buttons, etc. for the entire campaign period. Day after the election almost every teacher was wearing an Obama tshirt. Copies of "Dreams of my Father" were purchased with school funds and distributed to every teacher. An inaguaration day celebration has been planned. It's insane, and it's WRONG. But it's ok cause it's Obama.

Obama has the "fearless leader" following similar to a Peron or Hitler type figure. This is how nations are led down a road they shouldn't be. It's a messianic thing.

If you don't believe he has the power and charisma to organize a Cuba-style progressive community organization/block watch, I think you're forgetting who Obama is and was.

Remember, the CDRs in Cuba are community organizations that host neighborhood clean-ups, community dances, celebrations, tutoring etc. Lots of good stuff. Except the part where they have a file on every person in the neigborhood that lets them drag you away if you're interfering with the revolution. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/foreheadslap.gif" alt="" />
 

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...it will never happen because for better or worse, Americans couldn't pull off that kind of organized effort.
Naive statement, IMO.

Actually quite the opposite- Many Americans in today's day and age are somewhat accurately termed "sheeple" and are generally easily persuaded and led by their chosen shepherd.

Only takes a few highly intelligent and persuasive individuals to start any movement and act as the leader of the flock.
 

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ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, is a community-based organization that advocates for low- and moderate-income families by working on neighborhood safety, voter registration, health care, affordable housing, and other social issues.
Those Marxist bastards!!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cussing.gif" alt="" />
you do know that there are big overlaps with acorn, nation of islam, and various black separtists / militants / marxists, don't you?
Its not the NSA we should be worried about.

Its the community organizers &lt;shudder&gt;!
We should be worried about both.

The CDRs in Cuba are exactly that - government sponsored community organizing - in the name of safety, patriotism and pushing forth progress.

Who doesn't want that? Tough times, people gotta pull together, right? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/foreheadslap.gif" alt="" />

Get beyond the campaign rhetoric and you'll see Obama has the same general ideas as Bush. What these guys claim/say they are and what they are are two different things. It's political collusion at its finest.

I get the funny feeling the Bush admin was the trial run to see what these government crooks can get by with...and Obama's going to be the real deal. Hope I'm wrong.
 

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I just filed my application for the force on friday. Pretty stoked to find out they have a Minority-Rights Task Force being developed. Apparently Obama wants to raid all white neighborhoods and burn them to the ground. IT will apparently be justified under the idea that these neigborhoods are full of the oppressors. If allowed, we will be able to arrest without charge and detain as neccessary. Within three years he is building a force to join african americans with chicanos in order to take over the land. WE'RE GONNA GET YA!!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/fight.gif" alt="" />


Lock up your daughters! Lock up your wives! Lock up your back doors and run for lives! Empowered colored man's in town! So don't you mess around! CAUSE WE BLACK AND MEXICAN......some only half...blakc and mexican.....we creep at night! BLACK AND MEXICAN....we'll drop in on you! BLACK AND MEXICAN, this country we'll owwwnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!
 

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because they are mostly white and upper-middle class and are completly unaware what's happening to the ghetto, which has developed a "YES WE DID! (STICK IT TO WHITEY)" philosophy.
I know your comment wasn't specific towards me but FYI, I live on the edge of Ladera Heights and Inglewood. Two extremes in income levels just among African Americans. I do agree that there are still many African Americans that have the stick it to whitey philosophy, but I'm certain there are far more whites in the US that have the "f*ck those n*ggers" philosophy.

In fact, I find the rich African Americans share the Chris Rock and Cosby philosophy of, "I hate n*ggas. All kinds of n*ggas."


It's insane, and it's WRONG. But it's ok cause it's Obama.
You're focusing on the color, not the situation.

I spent my last 2 yrs of public high school in what is thought of as an upper class neighborhood with 80% rich American Jewish population and it was Clintonfest 92 with both students and many teachers. Anytime you have a very unpopular, out-of-touch with common folk image incumbent versus and incoming "new hope for the people" image elect coming in, you will have the exact same effect. Regardless of the color or party involved. Your girlfriend works in a very blue environment. Comes with the territory.

Also...although I have no pictorial proof, I am 100% certain there is at least one example of the same ongoings with favortism towards Mcfail and Failin somewhere in the deep red states.

Naive statement, IMO.
Nope. It is a completely realistic statement. It would take generations to reverse the MTV pussification effect IMO.
 

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I just filed my application for the force on friday. Pretty stoked to find out they have a Minority-Rights Task Force being developed. Apparently Obama wants to raid all white neighborhoods and burn them to the ground. IT will apparently be justified under the idea that these neigborhoods are full of the oppressors. If allowed, we will be able to arrest without charge and detain as neccessary. Within three years he is building a force to join african americans with chicanos in order to take over the land. WE'RE GONNA GET YA!!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/fight.gif" alt="" />


Lock up your daughters! Lock up your wives! Lock up your back doors and run for lives! Empowered colored man's in town! So don't you mess around! CAUSE WE BLACK AND MEXICAN......some only half...blakc and mexican.....we creep at night! BLACK AND MEXICAN....we'll drop in on you! BLACK AND MEXICAN, this country we'll owwwnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!
<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" />
 

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I hope I'm ok since I'm married to a Mexican, maybe I'll get to wear a badge or something. Being of northern European ethnicity probably disqualifies me from carrying a gun or truncheon in Civilian Marxist Police Force.

My daughter can rise up through the ranks and become a "community organizer" or "processor". Hey, I can dream can't I?

<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/monkey.gif" alt="" />
 

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I hope I'm ok since I'm married to a Mexican, maybe I'll get to wear a badge or something.
no, this just gets you both executed as race traitors, by one faction or the other.

its not a race issue, its a heritage and philosophy schism; the marxist-socialist-progressive urbanites v. traditionalist-individualist-constitutional-republicans (small "r" republicans).

in all seriousness though, obama is starting to look too weak to do much of anything on his real agenda.

i predict the democrats will eat themselves more quickly than anyone could have imagined.
 

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carrying on casa's theme...can't believe this made the AP with only minimally biased reporting. btw, obama's proposal is NOTHING like what bush proposed, and that should have been made distinct.

Georgia congressman warns of Obama dictatorship

Nov 10 08:46 PM US/Eastern
By BEN EVANS
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist dictatorship.
"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press.
How is everyone's Marxist dictatorship going?

I assume Representative "evolution is a lie from the pit of hell" was correct?
 

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I think you're being naive here.

I think most of the people on this board are naive to this, because they are mostly white and upper-middle class and are completly unaware what's happening to the ghetto, which has developed a "YES WE DID! (STICK IT TO WHITEY)" philosophy. This has not been a defeat of racism, it has been a reinforcement of racism. But the center-liberal white middle-upper class doesn't get it cause they don't live it.

The rules have been bent for Obama. Exemple. My girlfriend teaches in an arts elementary school in an urban neighborhood. About 50% black, 50% white student population, with 90% of the teachers being black. Normal policy in the public school system = NO POLITICAL CRAP. Don't wear it, don't talk about it. But pretty much every teacher there has been wearing Obama tshirts, buttons, etc. for the entire campaign period. Day after the election almost every teacher was wearing an Obama tshirt. Copies of "Dreams of my Father" were purchased with school funds and distributed to every teacher. An inaguaration day celebration has been planned. It's insane, and it's WRONG. But it's ok cause it's Obama.

Obama has the "fearless leader" following similar to a Peron or Hitler type figure. This is how nations are led down a road they shouldn't be. It's a messianic thing.

If you don't believe he has the power and charisma to organize a Cuba-style progressive community organization/block watch, I think you're forgetting who Obama is and was.

Remember, the CDRs in Cuba are community organizations that host neighborhood clean-ups, community dances, celebrations, tutoring etc. Lots of good stuff. Except the part where they have a file on every person in the neigborhood that lets them drag you away if you're interfering with the revolution. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/foreheadslap.gif" alt="" />
:roflmao: