I've talked w him a few times bc he's married to my neighbor's sister. He's definitely a thoughtful, genuine guy. Super artsy and creative. His fins that he brings to the boardroom show are works of art. Before this collab, he said he wanted to focus on spending more time w each customer, surfing w them, and giving them a complete experience before shaping a board for them, rather than mass produce boards. Wonder if he's going to try to keep that model, while pumping out some asyms w Matt. I hope so, and he deserves any success he reaps.