So nobody wants to talk about the Saudi who shot up the military base in Pensacola?

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It is ok the Saudis buy alot of stuff and bailed out Trumps son in law from a disastrous investment.
 

Mike_Jones

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The only surprise here is that these elementary concepts have to be explained to you.

The Sunnis of Saudi Arabia are the main reason why the total loonies of Iran have not killed all of the non-Shiites in Arabia and the Middle East, and taken their territory.

Obama wanted to bring modern socialism to the region, but didn't understand that his dreams were anathema to people living in the 6th century. Obama tolerated Saudi Arabia for the same reason that Trump tolerates them. I can't say the same for Bush, but that's a separate issue.

Are the Saudis our "friends"? Hell no. They are Muslims, and therefore loonies too. They are just slightly less loony than the alternatives. Saudi Arabia's power is required because their balancing force provides a stable environment for U.S. interests in the region.

Allies are not the same things as friends.
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So your answer is war and genocide? How is that consistent with your anti-neocon politics?
Neocon is nation-building and world hegemony

Thermonuclear genocide is simply psychopathic ancient-world style problem solving
 

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The only surprise here is that these elementary concepts have to be explained to you.

The Sunnis of Saudi Arabia are the main reason why the total loonies of Iran have not killed all of the non-Shiites in Arabia and the Middle East, and taken their territory.

Obama wanted to bring modern socialism to the region, but didn't understand that his dreams were anathema to people living in the 6th century. Obama tolerated Saudi Arabia for the same reason that Trump tolerates them. I can't say the same for Bush, but that's a separate issue.

Are the Saudis our "friends"? Hell no. They are Muslims, and therefore loonies too. They are just slightly less loony than the alternatives. Saudi Arabia's power is required because their balancing force provides a stable environment for U.S. interests in the region.

Allies are not the same things as friends.
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the saudis are less loony? mmmmmmkay.
 

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Recently Saudi Arabia's new King Salman got a bad reputation for murdering some of his political rivals. Compounding things, Salman ordered and carried out the execution of a U.S. resident who visited the Middle East. The problems with blaming that execution on Saudi Arabia are:

1. The dead guy was an ISIS terrorist whom Obama had allowed to immigrate to the United States as he had allowed a flood of muslims to immigrate.

2. The United States, yes under Obama too, has systematically been murdering terrorists throughout the Middle East, including residents and citizens of Saudi Arabia. Why is it incumbent on Saudi Arabia not to do the same thing?
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Recently Saudi Arabia's new King Salman got a bad reputation for murdering some of his political rivals. Compounding things, Salman ordered and carried out the execution of a U.S. resident who visited the Middle East. The problems with blaming that execution on Saudi Arabia are:

1. The dead guy was an ISIS terrorist whom Obama had allowed to immigrate to the United States as he had allowed a flood of muslims to immigrate.

2. The United States, yes under Obama too, has systematically been murdering terrorists throughout the Middle East, including residents and citizens of Saudi Arabia. Why is it incumbent on Saudi Arabia not to do the same thing?
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keep slurping the saudi and billionaire seed.
 

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Remember the Boston Marathon bombing and the surveilance snapshots which emerged immediately afterward? We kept seeing the same couple of middle eastern guys. walking through places where bombs exploded.later. Internet junkies theorized that these two guys planted the bombs.

As it turns out these two guys were Saudi agents who were trailing the Tsarniev brothers, the real bombers. Saudi Arabia had discovered the bomb plot, and even warned Obama Administration officials about it. The officials ignored the warning.
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