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Scamming other shapers boards
- Thread starter Waterlogged05
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The are many computer shapers that don't own a program or know how to use it - - -
A sander who has his own label of boards told me he gets no respect from some shapers , the glass shop told me he doesn't have a program or know how to use one .
Those beautiful longboards i saw looked familiar - saw some in Italy - it turns out they were Bing programs .
Another shaper showed a freind how he scans others boards , he being a handshaper chuckles at this stuff .
There was a guy near Bashams 15+ years ago that after his tech foam didn't take off , he advertised he could do many top shapers boards with the programs he recieved buying the machine he bought .
This ain't new stuff ;-)
A sander who has his own label of boards told me he gets no respect from some shapers , the glass shop told me he doesn't have a program or know how to use one .
Those beautiful longboards i saw looked familiar - saw some in Italy - it turns out they were Bing programs .
Another shaper showed a freind how he scans others boards , he being a handshaper chuckles at this stuff .
There was a guy near Bashams 15+ years ago that after his tech foam didn't take off , he advertised he could do many top shapers boards with the programs he recieved buying the machine he bought .
This ain't new stuff ;-)
Yes, but I think it's the first known time someone has done such a thing on Craigslist while naming specific shapers very explicitly.
Remember that guy on Criags years back that claimed to have a bunch of shaper's files and he would cut and glass for like $400? Didn't he register a a handle and try to explain himself here?
Remember that guy on Criags years back that claimed to have a bunch of shaper's files and he would cut and glass for like $400? Didn't he register a a handle and try to explain himself here?
Yes, however from what I remember it was not what you just suggested. He put a lot of well known board model hashtags or keywords into his advert (presumably to attract search hits) and then hook someone up with a custom build.
It misleadingly gave the impression to some on the erBB that he was scanning boards or had the files, however that was not the situation. When the discussion on here came to his attention, he said he had been silly and took the advert down or re-worded it. He explained that he was just a middle man with a day job who did not have any board building skills himself, but would arrange shaping and glassing using local professional labour. He said his motivation was getting customers stoked with their new boards.
Wow! that's amazing. It is also a lot of work! After preparing the board and scanning, dents, wax bumps, fin plug imperfections need to be smoothed out.
After the import into S3d a useful selection of slices need to be selected. Twists need adjusting. The bottom stringer in the tail block was all rounded off in that example and needed fixing. The rail profiles were a mess in the tail. So all the skills needed to put a designed from scratch board would be needed, plus a lot more skills in spotting and correcting problems would be needed - not easy.
Do you use the fin plug feature Greg, or just mark them out yourself on the finished blank.
The ad says it took him 3 yrs to make a perfect Christensen file. Even if the dimensions were the same it would not be the same file as the Christensen original, there would be no way of knowing where the original slices were placed, so it would have been up to the judgement of the re-creator. Possibly other control points were added to the re-creation.
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Name.I was coming on here to see dish! Who ya'll think it is? It would have to be someone with an expensive CNC machine and a scanner... who is a prick!
Hmmm... Maybe someone who has stolen shapers files before?Maybe somone good with computers and replicating shapers boards?
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I watched all of the S3D scanning tutorial and I wouldn't attempt that, too hard. It would take too many wasted blanks where I hadn't fixed the imperfections or distorted the original shape. If I wanted to copy a shape I would measure rails with calipers, put a rocker stick on it and make a board from scratch in shape3d matching those numbers. It would be comparable in terms of wave performance range, but not look or ride the same. I use just one slice in the nose area and this is enough control for my ability level. The nose rail curves and thickness blending of say a Chilli look quite different to what I have produced.
consent, bro. the line is at consent. in this case, in writing, too.
Probably?
Let's see
Three 60+ year old shapers? Check.
Three years to make a file? Check.
Including shapers names who are likely to get heated? Check.
Emphasizing how perfect the scammed shapes are? Check.
etc.
No, the way it's supposed to work is the shaper chooses the ghostshaper and trains him in regards to producing his product.
Some random guy off the street scrubbing a machine cut Christenson file probably isn't gonna produce the same results.
Yea I get that. And places like stretch do that and they have stretch look at the board before it’s complete.
But with Christendon he doesn’t even look at some of his machine files