Russians used FB to exploit divisions over BLM and Muslims

[StuAzole]

Go for it. I don't care what happens to Trump.

And then we can turn our attention to the members of the domestic press who actively engaged in fake news for political gain because THEIR influence was a lot more direct.

examples?

 

[StuAzole]

This is taken from the standard elitist playbook, taking away agency and responsibility from the individual.

THOSE DIRTY PLEBES ARE TOO STUPID TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES

Where are all these playbooks you keep referencing and how did you find them? Or was that line of yours just taken out of the Proud Boy Playbook?

 

[BSshwack]

This is taken from the standard elitist playbook, taking away agency and responsibility from the individual.

THOSE DIRTY PLEBES ARE TOO STUPID TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES

The human podcast repeater talking about thinking for yourself

 

[Surfdog]

I can not believe people here can shrug off a foreign power interfering in our elections.
It's unprecedented. Doesn't that bother you? Forget about who Putin was helping, it's Russia involved in our political process. Doesn't that concern you? Or do you think that this is more partisan "fake news"?

Deep Spooks and Trump was mastermind of it all!!

Bwaaaaahaaahaaahaaahaaaaaaaaaa!

 

[manbearpig]

This is taken from the standard elitist playbook, taking away agency and responsibility from the individual.

THOSE DIRTY PLEBES ARE TOO STUPID TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES

I see this as a serious problem in politics, the lack of people thinking for themselves. I think I'm looking at it differently than you. But you see people regularly being ostracized for simply having a view not consistent with their peers. Republicans have their rhinos, not sure what the pet name is for democrats, but all it does is suppress individual thinking within parties.

It creates a lack of critical thinking and immediate dismissal of the possibility, when a subject like Russians influencing our elections, comes up from the side that benefits.

The fact that trump doesn't acknowledge it as a flaw in our security just raises more flags. If he had nothing to lose he'd face it head on and deal with that flaw. That would be pretty badass.

 

[GDaddy]

examples?

Good gravy - search "CNN fake news examples". Search "Fox fake news examples" while you're at it. Big Media is losing their credibility for cause. And it's not the other media outlets that are burning them.

 

[Lance Mannion]

This is taken from the standard elitist playbook, taking away agency and responsibility from the individual.

THOSE DIRTY PLEBES ARE TOO STUPID TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES

I'm still convinced that this is a direct result of Climate Change.
Is there any data on the Eskimo vote?

 

[sizzld1]

This is taken from the standard elitist playbook, taking away agency and responsibility from the individual.

THOSE DIRTY PLEBES ARE TOO STUPID TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES

Talk about a page out of the playbook. Jeez. You do realize your quote is just another form of the oh so dreaded "identity politics", right?

No one is saying anyone is too stupid to think for themselves, but you have to be a complete idiot to believe that people's thought processes, beliefs, and consequently their actions are not affected by the media they consume.

 

[BSshwack]

No one is saying anyone is too stupid to think for themselves, but you have to be a complete idiot to believe that people's thought processes, beliefs, and consequently their actions are not affected by the media they consume.

Like Gavin McInnes podcasts for example?

 

[Ifallalot]

This is taken from the standard elitist playbook, taking away agency and responsibility from the individual.

THOSE DIRTY PLEBES ARE TOO STUPID TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES

The human podcast repeater talking about thinking for yourself

What in the cuntfuck are you talking about?

This is a core tenet I've had for my whole life. The Left just decided that populism was bad recently and left me behind. This is a core theme that is repeated throughout history from Rome through the medieval era and even into the Age of Revolutions with our Founders and the French. The Plebeians in Rome had to fight a Civil War to get them the Tribunate, and even then their votes were worth a fraction of those of Patrician families. Then for nearly 1800 years Rome and then most of Europe decided that it was better for a single person to think for them. Even when our Founders and the first revolutionaries in France created republics where enfranchisement was severely limited because of the "tyranny of the mob." Look how disenfranchised citizens of the US are to this day! I've always believed that true self-determination is the only acceptable course of action

So its bad to listen to things where you're learning stuff? I guess I should just listen to mindless sports talk and bad music when I'm driving. Should I burn my books too?

 

[Ifallalot]

No one is saying anyone is too stupid to think for themselves, but you have to be a complete idiot to believe that people's thought processes, beliefs, and consequently their actions are not affected by the media they consume.

Like Gavin McInnes podcasts for example?

Keep conjecturing what you hear here so you can think you know why I think the way I do. Fecal has taught you well

Hint: Gavin doesn't even have a Podcast. Maybe people should learn to discern what a 10 minute comedy video is

 

[Ifallalot]

This is taken from the standard elitist playbook, taking away agency and responsibility from the individual.

THOSE DIRTY PLEBES ARE TOO STUPID TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES

Talk about a page out of the playbook. Jeez. You do realize your quote is just another form of the oh so dreaded "identity politics", right?

No one is saying anyone is too stupid to think for themselves, but you have to be a complete idiot to believe that people's thought processes, beliefs, and consequently their actions are not affected by the media they consume.

So I suppose those politicians that are pushing the Russia narrative hardest will only self-fund their next campaigns? Wouldn't want that outside influence, would we?

 

[BSshwack]

No one is saying anyone is too stupid to think for themselves, but you have to be a complete idiot to believe that people's thought processes, beliefs, and consequently their actions are not affected by the media they consume.

Like Gavin McInnes podcasts for example?

Keep conjecturing what you hear here so you can think you know why I think the way I do. Fecal has taught you well

Hint: Gavin doesn't even have a Podcast. Maybe people should learn to discern what a 10 minute comedy video is

I'm sorry I was harsh. My point is, I can find hundreds of Twitter commenters making the same points you make on the erBB and using the same arguments. I have a strong suspicion many of them consume similar media to you, whatever form that takes.

For better or worse (definitely worse,) a ton of people do get their news from Facebook. Doesn't mean they can't think for themselves, but it's the media they're exposed to.

 

[GWS]

This is taken from the standard elitist playbook, taking away agency and responsibility from the individual.

THOSE DIRTY PLEBES ARE TOO STUPID TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES

Talk about a page out of the playbook. Jeez. You do realize your quote is just another form of the oh so dreaded "identity politics", right?

No one is saying anyone is too stupid to think for themselves, but you have to be a complete idiot to believe that people's thought processes, beliefs, and consequently their actions are not affected by the media they consume.

So do you avoid any media that conflicts with your though processes, beliefs etc? That would be a little pathetic don't you think?

 

[Kento]

No one is saying anyone is too stupid to think for themselves, but you have to be a complete idiot to believe that people's thought processes, beliefs, and consequently their actions are not affected by the media they consume.

Like Gavin McInnes podcasts for example?

Keep conjecturing what you hear here so you can think you know why I think the way I do. Fecal has taught you well

Hint: Gavin doesn't even have a Podcast. Maybe people should learn to discern what a 10 minute comedy video is

So why DO you perform self-ilkings with the ignorant trash that populate the Ben Shapiro, Proud Boys, etc. FB feeds?

 

[Ifallalot]

No one is saying anyone is too stupid to think for themselves, but you have to be a complete idiot to believe that people's thought processes, beliefs, and consequently their actions are not affected by the media they consume.

Like Gavin McInnes podcasts for example?

Keep conjecturing what you hear here so you can think you know why I think the way I do. Fecal has taught you well

Hint: Gavin doesn't even have a Podcast. Maybe people should learn to discern what a 10 minute comedy video is

So why DO you perform self-ilkings with the ignorant trash that populate the Ben Shapiro, Proud Boys, etc. FB feeds?

Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean they are "ignorant trash"

Attitudes like this are why the current form of the American Left is going to continue to lose to people they hate

 

[Ifallalot]

No one is saying anyone is too stupid to think for themselves, but you have to be a complete idiot to believe that people's thought processes, beliefs, and consequently their actions are not affected by the media they consume.

Like Gavin McInnes podcasts for example?

Keep conjecturing what you hear here so you can think you know why I think the way I do. Fecal has taught you well

Hint: Gavin doesn't even have a Podcast. Maybe people should learn to discern what a 10 minute comedy video is

So why DO you perform self-ilkings with the ignorant trash that populate the Ben Shapiro, Proud Boys, etc. FB feeds?

ilk is ilk. simple.

never mind

 

[Kento]

No one is saying anyone is too stupid to think for themselves, but you have to be a complete idiot to believe that people's thought processes, beliefs, and consequently their actions are not affected by the media they consume.

Like Gavin McInnes podcasts for example?

Keep conjecturing what you hear here so you can think you know why I think the way I do. Fecal has taught you well

Hint: Gavin doesn't even have a Podcast. Maybe people should learn to discern what a 10 minute comedy video is

So why DO you perform self-ilkings with the ignorant trash that populate the Ben Shapiro, Proud Boys, etc. FB feeds?

Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean they are "ignorant trash"

Attitudes like this are why the current form of the American Left is going to continue to lose to people they hate

Do you actually read the comments?

And, yes, the vast majority of them are from ignorant trash.

 

[sizzld1]

This is taken from the standard elitist playbook, taking away agency and responsibility from the individual.

THOSE DIRTY PLEBES ARE TOO STUPID TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES

Talk about a page out of the playbook. Jeez. You do realize your quote is just another form of the oh so dreaded "identity politics", right?

No one is saying anyone is too stupid to think for themselves, but you have to be a complete idiot to believe that people's thought processes, beliefs, and consequently their actions are not affected by the media they consume.

So do you avoid any media that conflicts with your though processes, beliefs etc? That would be a little pathetic don't you think?

No, actually I don't. And I work with a couple of very intelligent ultra-conservatives who also help me check my biases and see things from a different perspective. We disagree about 90% of the time, but I always learn something from the discussions. But that is not the case for the vast majority of this country.

In fact, that's one of the big problems with fake news on FB. FB uses algorithms to ensure you see what FB thinks you want to see. So if you look at a "real" news story about BLM assaulting police officers, for instance, you are much more likely to see/be targeted with "fake news" about BLM that appeals towards your apparent distrust/dislike of them (substitute alt-right for BLM if it makes you feel better). For the record, I've never had a FB account and don't regret it one bit.

 

[GWS]

This is taken from the standard elitist playbook, taking away agency and responsibility from the individual.

THOSE DIRTY PLEBES ARE TOO STUPID TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES

Talk about a page out of the playbook. Jeez. You do realize your quote is just another form of the oh so dreaded "identity politics", right?

No one is saying anyone is too stupid to think for themselves, but you have to be a complete idiot to believe that people's thought processes, beliefs, and consequently their actions are not affected by the media they consume.

So do you avoid any media that conflicts with your though processes, beliefs etc? That would be a little pathetic don't you think?

No, actually I don't. And I work with a couple of very intelligent ultra-conservatives who also help me check my biases and see things from a different perspective. We disagree about 90% of the time, but I always learn something from the discussions. But that is not the case for the vast majority of this country.

In fact, that's one of the big problems with fake news on FB. FB uses algorithms to ensure you see what FB thinks you want to see. So if you look at a "real" news story about BLM assaulting police officers, for instance, you are much more likely to see/be targeted with "fake news" about BLM that appeals towards your apparent distrust/dislike of them (substitute alt-right for BLM if it makes you feel better). For the record, I've never had a FB account and don't regret it one bit.

We disagree. Relying on co-workers to provide you with contrasting viewpoints is weak. Take it all in (legitimate media, real journalists with editors, the whole deal) and then either rip it shreds or confirm your opinion. Head in the sand is no way for an intelligent person to form his/her opinions. Most people gravitate to a news outlet that confirms their bias. It's comforting. It makes them feel intelligent without making them think.

And I don't do FB. Period. The concept of getting "news" from that joke is just really, really stupid. If I may wax elitist for a moment, anybody who gets their "news" from FB should probably not be allowed to vote. I mean, not really, I wouldn't actually support that, but good grief, the world would be a better place if they didn't vote.