"Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media

casa_mugrienta

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Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.

 

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casa_mugrienta said:
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.
I totally disagree with your first paragraph........but I totally agree with the last. Unfortunately a lot of what we see in the news today was ginned up because Hillary had a bad couple of days. Wonder if any of the so-called journalists have regrets now that a bunch of police officers have been shot?
 

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Meanwhile in Baltimore.....a year later the prosecutor who tried to make a name for herself and the media that sensationalized it are 0-4 in proving that the cops committed a crime. But hey, CNN's numbers were up. :shrug: http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/07/18/baltimore-officer-learns-fate-in-gray-case/
 

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casa_mugrienta said:
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.
I'd largely agree. The war on drugs may be the biggest failure in policy the US has ever seen.
 

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...and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade.
I used to think that could never happen.

Now? If some KKK/white supremacists go ape sh!t with assault weapons on the next BLM march in Cleveland?

That just might kick it off.
 

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GWS said:
...and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade.
I used to think that could never happen.

Now? If some KKK/white supremacists go ape sh!t with assault weapons on the next BLM march in Cleveland?

That just might kick it off.
Obama is doing this to reduce the unemployment rate.
 

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GromsDad said:
casa_mugrienta said:
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.
I totally disagree with your first paragraph.....
What part? Rates of drug use? The fact drug arrests bar people from real employment? Do you think people spend money to hire a lawyer vs public defender just for the fun of it? That it's NOT easier to trample on the rights of people in low income communities?
 

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casa_mugrienta said:
GromsDad said:
casa_mugrienta said:
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.
I totally disagree with your first paragraph.....
What part? Rates of drug use? The fact drug arrests bar people from real employment? Do you think people spend money to hire a lawyer vs public defender just for the fun of it? That it's NOT easier to trample on the rights of people in low income communities?
Close friend of mine is a Trump supporter for god knows why. Total denial of white privilege despite his getting busted for possession of weed with intent to sell. His parents ponied up $45K to keep his record clean. Tried to explain to him that not everyone has that opportunity. Flew over his head unfortunately. :shrug:
 

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casa_mugrienta said:
GromsDad said:
casa_mugrienta said:
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.
I totally disagree with your first paragraph.....
What part? Rates of drug use? The fact drug arrests bar people from real employment? Do you think people spend money to hire a lawyer vs public defender just for the fun of it? That it's NOT easier to trample on the rights of people in low income communities?
When you look at the drug trade supply chain the vast majority of the hubs are in poor neighborhoods even if the salesmen aren't selling a whole lot to the locals (ie poor Blacks in your scenario).

I wonder if "progressives" ever take notice that the VAST majority of this bullshit didn't start until after this "Great Society" nonsense started making its way into government programs because racist "progressives" either think that the Black Man is too stupid to take care of himself and needs help from "kind, caring liberals or in LBJ's case, wants more Democrat voters and keeping them hooked on handouts keeps them coming back to the Democrat party.....kinda' like a crack or heroin dealer huh?
 

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GromsDad said:
Meanwhile in Baltimore.....a year later the prosecutor who tried to make a name for herself and the media that sensationalized it are 0-4 in proving that the cops committed a crime. But hey, CNN's numbers were up. :shrug: http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/07/18/baltimore-officer-learns-fate-in-gray-case/
From Wikipedia:

Lieutenant Brian W. Rice, age 41, white, is a 17-year-veteran of the force.[23][24] Rice, who was promoted to lieutenant in 2011, is the highest-ranking officer charged in relation to Gray's death.[26] The Guardian reported that, in 2012, Rice had allegedly threatened to kill himself and the husband of his former partner. He had been hospitalized, reportedly, for a mental health evaluation and given an administrative suspension. The consequences of this threat included twice having his guns confiscated, and a restraining order on behalf of the husband of his former partner.[27] According to a police report obtained by The Guardian, Rice had also misused his position to order the arrest of his ex-girlfriend's husband as part of a personal dispute that took place two weeks before the incident.[28]
Sounds like a great guy.
 

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Gnudz said:
GromsDad said:
Meanwhile in Baltimore.....a year later the prosecutor who tried to make a name for herself and the media that sensationalized it are 0-4 in proving that the cops committed a crime. But hey, CNN's numbers were up. :shrug: http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/07/18/baltimore-officer-learns-fate-in-gray-case/
From Wikipedia:

Lieutenant Brian W. Rice, age 41, white, is a 17-year-veteran of the force.[23][24] Rice, who was promoted to lieutenant in 2011, is the highest-ranking officer charged in relation to Gray's death.[26] The Guardian reported that, in 2012, Rice had allegedly threatened to kill himself and the husband of his former partner. He had been hospitalized, reportedly, for a mental health evaluation and given an administrative suspension. The consequences of this threat included twice having his guns confiscated, and a restraining order on behalf of the husband of his former partner.[27] According to a police report obtained by The Guardian, Rice had also misused his position to order the arrest of his ex-girlfriend's husband as part of a personal dispute that took place two weeks before the incident.[28]
Sounds like a great guy.
It's almost as if JAH was deputized.
 

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Gnudz said:
GromsDad said:
Meanwhile in Baltimore.....a year later the prosecutor who tried to make a name for herself and the media that sensationalized it are 0-4 in proving that the cops committed a crime. But hey, CNN's numbers were up. :shrug: http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/07/18/baltimore-officer-learns-fate-in-gray-case/
From Wikipedia:

Lieutenant Brian W. Rice, age 41, white, is a 17-year-veteran of the force.[23][24] Rice, who was promoted to lieutenant in 2011, is the highest-ranking officer charged in relation to Gray's death.[26] The Guardian reported that, in 2012, Rice had allegedly threatened to kill himself and the husband of his former partner. He had been hospitalized, reportedly, for a mental health evaluation and given an administrative suspension. The consequences of this threat included twice having his guns confiscated, and a restraining order on behalf of the husband of his former partner.[27] According to a police report obtained by The Guardian, Rice had also misused his position to order the arrest of his ex-girlfriend's husband as part of a personal dispute that took place two weeks before the incident.[28]
Sounds like a great guy.
What part of NOT GUILTY didn't you grasp?
 

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casa_mugrienta said:
GromsDad said:
casa_mugrienta said:
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.
I totally disagree with your first paragraph.....
What part? Rates of drug use? The fact drug arrests bar people from real employment? Do you think people spend money to hire a lawyer vs public defender just for the fun of it? That it's NOT easier to trample on the rights of people in low income communities?
You act like law enforcement is picking on them. Law enforcement goes where the crime is just like firefighters go where there are fires. Its not the war on drugs that created the mess in that community, it is a whole cascade of failed liberal policies and a lack of a basic social and moral code. The whole thing is broken down. Our government has been funding bad behavior for more than 50 years and it is a total failure. Look no further than the breakdown of the family unit that has resulted from liberal policies. These kids don't stand a chance.

As for drugs, I'd get even harsher on those in the business but that is another thread entirely. There have been so many heroin ODs in this area that its mind blowing. I'd be all for the death penalty for anyone caught with a dealers quantity of this poison.
 

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GromsDad said:
casa_mugrienta said:
GromsDad said:
casa_mugrienta said:
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.
I totally disagree with your first paragraph.....
What part? Rates of drug use? The fact drug arrests bar people from real employment? Do you think people spend money to hire a lawyer vs public defender just for the fun of it? That it's NOT easier to trample on the rights of people in low income communities?
You act like law enforcement is picking on them. Law enforcement goes where the crime is just like firefighters go where there are fires.
Wrong. Law enforcement goes where they will be able to get easy arrests and assured convictions. Open air markets are much easier than Junior's fenced in backyard. And it's as much about politics as anything else too. Gotta make the chief of police, the mayor, and the DA look good.

Its not the war on drugs that created the mess in that community, it is a whole cascade of failed liberal policies and a lack of a basic social and moral code.
You honestly think the lack of basic social and moral code comes from liberal policies? :roflmao:

Lack of basic social and moral code has gone hand in hand with living in poverty ever since civilization began, and long before liberal policies even existed.

As for drugs, I'd get even harsher on those in the business but that is another thread entirely. There have been so many heroin ODs in this area that its mind blowing. I'd be all for the death penalty for anyone caught with a dealers quantity of this poison.
:rolleyes: Nice job spelling out why you aren't a libertarian.
 

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Kento said:
casa_mugrienta said:
GromsDad said:
casa_mugrienta said:
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.
I totally disagree with your first paragraph.....
What part? Rates of drug use? The fact drug arrests bar people from real employment? Do you think people spend money to hire a lawyer vs public defender just for the fun of it? That it's NOT easier to trample on the rights of people in low income communities?
Close friend of mine is a Trump supporter for god knows why. Total denial of white privilege despite his getting busted for possession of weed with intent to sell. His parents ponied up $45K to keep his record clean. Tried to explain to him that not everyone has that opportunity. Flew over his head unfortunately. :shrug:
I too have seen similar in many circumstances, even with coke. It isn't a race thing, it's an economic thing.

A good lawyer can pull a disappearing act no matter what your race. You just have to have the ability to pay.

 

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casa_mugrienta said:
As for drugs, I'd get even harsher on those in the business but that is another thread entirely. There have been so many heroin ODs in this area that its mind blowing. I'd be all for the death penalty for anyone caught with a dealers quantity of this poison.
:rolleyes: Nice job spelling out why you aren't a libertarian.
Being libertarian and being for death for drug dealers are not opposing viewpoints. I don't give a sh!t what you do to yourself. Drink turpentine for all I care. The minute you start selling that sh!t to people, particularly minors, you are affecting others and need to be held accountable. Public hanging would be preferable.
 

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GromsDad said:
casa_mugrienta said:
As for drugs, I'd get even harsher on those in the business but that is another thread entirely. There have been so many heroin ODs in this area that its mind blowing. I'd be all for the death penalty for anyone caught with a dealers quantity of this poison.
:rolleyes: Nice job spelling out why you aren't a libertarian.
Being libertarian and being for death for drug dealers are not opposing viewpoints. I don't give a sh!t what you do to yourself. Drink turpentine for all I care. The minute you start selling that sh!t to people, particularly minors, you are affecting others and need to be held accountable. Public hanging would be preferable.
Legalization of drugs is a cornerstone of libertarian thought.

reason.com/archives/2016/06/27/libertarians-for-drug-prohibition

All choices, not just drugs, affect others in some way. Good or bad.

And support for the death penalty is just plain stupid, unless you're OK with executing innocent people every once in a while.