Looks like a Twin Pin and a Flat Earth had a baby...
The fin boxes though... not in line with the wing. lol.
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Pyzel Wildcat twin
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The fin boxes though... not in line with the wing. lol.
prolly a lot of other design differences in the board beyond just that
Just to be clear on my position with the wing and fin box.
Isn't the wing supposed to create a break in the outline for pivot?
Isn't the fin a pivot point (especially since there are only 2 fins)?
Since the wing creates a break in the outline for pivot and the fin is the actual pivot point of the board... if you put the fin below the wing, wouldn't it work against the wing and make the board stiff or cause it to slide out? Why even put a wing, in that case.
I would presume that putting the back of the fin box in line with the wing would be the optimal position to maximize the break in the outline (the wing) and have it work together with the pivot point (the fin)?
@tedshred5 Probably... I think this one looks super fun.
Isn't the wing supposed to create a break in the outline for pivot?
Isn't the fin a pivot point (especially since there are only 2 fins)?
Since the wing creates a break in the outline for pivot and the fin is the actual pivot point of the board... if you put the fin below the wing, wouldn't it work against the wing and make the board stiff or cause it to slide out? Why even put a wing, in that case.
I would presume that putting the back of the fin box in line with the wing would be the optimal position to maximize the break in the outline (the wing) and have it work together with the pivot point (the fin)?
@tedshred5 Probably... I think this one looks super fun.
For sizing, go an inch or 2 under your Daily Driver type board, and a half inch to an inch wider and a touch more volume.
Dims on this don't make much sense to me. If a stock 5'10" Phantom is my daily driver then according to the site I should surf a 5'8" Wildcat, but at that size stock is barely wider and is the same volume as the phantom.
Pricing on these is equal to a twinsman now
Dims on this don't make much sense to me. If a stock 5'10" Phantom is my daily driver then according to the site I should surf a 5'8" Wildcat, but at that size stock is barely wider and is the same volume as the phantom.
Pricing on these is equal to a twinsman now
the wing placement just creates a different sensation. You're convinced one is right or wrong visually, but the shapers place it where they think it would work best with all the other design choices on the bottom of the boar.
Would be interesting to do a blind test and not look at the wing-to-fin placement... and see if you could actually tell the difference when surfing. If the design as a whole is working in harmony, I doubt I could pinpoint that element... but then I suck at sarfing.
According to the Jai video, it surfs exactly like I do on my TwinsmanRP, so probably cant justify it.
Just get one big enough that my old ass can demo it please
we should all just go ahead and sign a pact to ride the same size boars in this erbb board-swap-sister-wives-commune, like NATOAccording to the Jai video, it surfs exactly like I do on my TwinsmanRP, so probably cant justify it.
Just get one big enough that my old ass can demo it please
You're overthinking it. It's a means to use a straighter rail line throughout most of the board outline to promote drive, and then have rapid area reduction in the tail to gain control over what would be a wide tail if the outline were to continue without the wing or a bump.
long right hand sand bottom points of northern NSW and southern Qld certainly help. I also think it also has to do with who the previous/current generation grew up watching also. Whilst the momentum videos were big in US and featured a lot of "tricks" in California waves, a lot of Aussies were watching the Pulse series, filmed mostly around the gold coast and North Coast with predominantly power surfers like margo, occy, NPJ, Luke Egan, Trent Munro etc along with young Parko, Fanning, Dingo
32L for me but it might be inching up. send over an ambassador with the twinsman and gremlin and we'll talk terms
Yes bro, yes.
33 is the lowest I can go. Above that I can make it work
I’m in on this blood pact or whatever. 32 has been my go to but times are a changin
As an Aussie who grew up watching Occy, Tommy gun etc on repeat I found some of the momentum series small wave stuff ridiculous (a lot of amazing stuff too). Dudes looked like their fins were clustered half way up the board, no drive, 360’s and slides everywhere.
it's the waves and the culture, long points breed good style
Long points does breed style as it gives you a lot of time to work out your kinks / observe others, but sometimes that translates to surfing like dogshit on the beachies for joe Average guys like me
The difference in my surfing when I'm on a longer wall VS short punchy beachie is not insignificant.Stiff is the opposite of slidey.
Good question. Why does a twin need more pivot? They windshield wipery as hell to begin w/ (if you're into that sort of thing). I'd rather turn on a rail.