i have boaars that r front foot and back footed , ppl over exaggerate the difference
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Last night I actually watched the Noel Salas Pyzel quiver vid. He did a good job highlighting some attributes of the different models and direct comparisons to each other in similar conditions (lowers). Pretty much in line with my impressions riding ghost, gremlin, and limited time on MG and phantom. I also watched the MG review. Probably a good place for you to startHi all, looking at custom ordering an MG squash or maybe even swallow for Queensland beach breaks here in Oz.
Really enjoyed and appreciated everyone's ride reports and feedback. I love the concept of the MG as I'm short (5'6) and like my DD around 5'4 27.5L for waist to HH WAVES. However, I keep hearing mixed reviews on the MG, it looks like it should grovel okayish but from the sound of it, it's a board that likes better waves?
Not sure whether to order a shortened and beefed up Pyzalien 2 or MG squash/swallow. Any more insights on the MG would be great.
so basically more entry rocker equals more of a backfooted board. The Highline, Radius, Shadow (to a certain degree), Next Step all would probably fit your definition .Backfooted = most rocker curve from the middle to nose of the board, drive coming from the middle of the board to tail.
Front footed = Entry rocker is low, with most rocker curve 1/3 of the way back from the nose to the tail. Doesn't drive off the tail but instead the middle of the board.
Cheers for the reply @oeste858, I probably should have mentioned that I have watched and read just about every review/comment on the Web! Noel's latest quiver video has me leaning towards the MG. Sorry if I missed it in the thread but did you go a custom or are you one of those lucky guys that suit stock dimensions?Yea, I have both. IMHO the bottom contours/rocker needs to suit the wave otherwise I feel like I’m fighting it.
Last night I actually watched the Noel Salas Pyzel quiver vid. He did a good job highlighting some attributes of the different models and direct comparisons to each other in similar conditions (lowers). Pretty much in line with my impressions riding ghost, gremlin, and limited time on MG and phantom. I also watched the MG review. Probably a good place for you to start
not sure if that's what you wanted, but don't think the MG was meant to be groveler. That would be Gremlin in that family.Wondering If I Oversized my Yolo MG Varial order ended up with the 5'10 and it feels huge and a bit corky. Me 5'10 180 in 4/3 and booties. Waves have been sh!t tho so... I have a feeling this board will work ok in head-high surf but what board doesn't. If you want to grovel I would undersize, especially in Varial foam as these boards hide a ton of foam. I will put this board on ice for the Fall sessions.
MG not meant to be a groveler but if you wanna extend its lower range, put in some quads. Fwiw I’m 5’10 185# and my MG is a stock 5’10 squash tail, pu though.Wondering If I Oversized my Yolo MG Varial order ended up with the 5'10 and it feels huge and a bit corky. Me 5'10 180 in 4/3 and booties. Waves have been sh!t tho so... I have a feeling this board will work ok in head-high surf but what board doesn't. If you want to grovel I would undersize, especially in Varial foam as these boards hide a ton of foam. I will put this board on ice for the Fall sessions.
I would not recommend swallow over squash. Squash is better in smaller wavesCheers for the reply @oeste858, I probably should have mentioned that I have watched and read just about every review/comment on the Web! Noel's latest quiver video has me leaning towards the MG. Sorry if I missed it in the thread but did you go a custom or are you one of those lucky guys that suit stock dimensions?
@Pyzelsurfboards, I listened to a podcast where you mentioned you were riding the MG as a swallow. Would you recommend the swallow over the a squash for 2-3ft beach breaks?
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Cheers for responding @Pyzelsurfboards, squash it is then!I would not recommend swallow over squash. Squash is better in smaller waves
I don't know all the answers. I prefer the Astro Pop myself@Pyzelsurfboards which would be a more intuitive board to hop onto as a groveler from a Mini Ghost in small Southern California waves…. Gremlin swallowtail or Astro Pop?
cheers thanks for chiming in JonI don't know all the answers. I prefer the Astro Pop myself
Sounds like you need a 5'5 with 5'6 width and thickness dims.I still have both the 5' 5" and 5' 6" Mini Ghost. My evaluation has stalled until we get waves again. I am still preferring the quad set-up in both boards. The 5' 5" is much easier to move around. After a hiatus, I surfed the 5' 6" over the weekend with my favorite quad set-up. Overall, the 5' 6" sizing is better for me, but prefer the 5' 5" feel on the wave. I like the drive AM2 fronts/NVS rears, it might be too much. I am going to try a different direction with the 5' 6" and see if it loosens the board up. I am going to try some smaller fins (AM1s thruster or Am1s/NVS rears and/or Stretch quads) and see how these go. I rewatched the STAB EAST with the Hos they liked smaller fins, something to try.
I did get a chance to ride the board again and I’d say the last report I gave still rings true.@kool-aid did you give MG another go or already pull the ripcord. Saw this Stab Joyride and seemed like the reviewer Stace had some of the same issues. He seemed to like it as quad better
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Joyride: The Pyzel Mini Ghost-Squash
Does that JJF in WA magic trickle down to smaller waves? Here, CT coach Stace Galbraith reviews the Pyzel Mini Ghost.stabmag.com