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just trying to help people out with the questions about a specific board and a specific shaper. anything besides that shouldn't be on this thread. create a new one if have tooGreg Griffin said:Are your negative thoughts that important - informative on a "Design Forum " ?
would like Jon to add his opinion. but as far as my experience particularly this El Nino winter surfing 2 months straight at Ventura point breaks I only used my 6'3" PyzAlien. Perfect for the days it was chest to near OH (say 8' face at me being 6'2"). That top end of OH I was really pushing the board hard on is upper limit. more so on paddling into the wave. just the standard not enough length to match the wave speed coming in. Should have been out on a longer board, like my 6'6" ShortCut. But next winter I'm thinking I'll order a 6'6" PyzAlien for OH days.Maz said:A question for you: Being so familiar with the board, where do you see the upper limit for the Pyzalien?
Greg Griffin said:"I like 2.5 usually. Also thinking this may be a bit too much volume for my 185lbs. "
Open your mind and experience more , please .
HI -- It is not a groveler, simply a good all around, stubbier board. We call it a Daily Driver because it is a great board to ride in a wide variety of waves and conditions.nexttozen said:since this board is marketed as a groveler, why is the tail so narrow at the 12" mark. looks to be 15" on a 6'1 x 19.75. a sub scorcher 2 for example is 15-5/8 on a 6'0.
I'm 5-9 and weigh 165 and I ride a 5-8 x 18.63 x 2.13 swallow tail, but I love smaller feeling boards. The main rule of thumb with this board is to go 1/8'' UNDER your normal shortboard thickness. It has a flat deck and fuller rail (mostly full feeling under the ball of your hand/palm, and tapering off from there so it doesn't ride fat)sakana_kid said:Stu Dog and Tanner- how would you size it in relation to your height? If I went custom I'd keep it short and wide. Definitely not in line with the FW dimensions. i'm 5'8" and fluctuate between 165-175.
Stoked it's holding up good and you like it. A swallow tail does exactly what you say-- helps the board feel more positive in the higher size range of waves that it is meant for, without taking much away from the low-end. I ride a 5-8 swallow tail in ceiling high (8 foot faces) waves in Hawaii all the time and it works greatMaz said:Stu Dog and Tanner (or anyone else who wants to chime in):
Does the swallow tail add a bit of upper range to the Pyzalien? Mine is a 6'0 x 19 3/4 x 2 1/2, and when it dies I'm looking at getting a stock 6'1 x 19 3/4 x 2 3/8. They're similar volume, and I'm just hoping that the slightly longer, thinner and swallow tailed 6'1 will hold in slightly bigger waves. Happy to sacrifice a bit of low end.
This board has one of the best glass jobs I've ever seen - thank you Pyzel Aus. However, I managed to kook the take off on a slabby, shallow left reef, leaving me going over the falls and driving my knee across the deck. Board didn't buckle, but I put a nice diagonal furrow across the deck. Still going strong 3 months later, but I prepare mentally for its demise.
knee high. if really want to push it. the board paddles VERY good for a shortboard. I've had mine out in 2' surf and still able to get my fat ass into waves. granted I'd prefer to have my longboard at that point but it was an overhyped south swell and only had the PyzAlien in the car.kdropin said:whats the low range on these sleds? waist high? or higher.. i have a LSD chubby chedda thats getting tired wondering how it compares
this has happened to me plenty.. sweet it can handle the small stuff if neededstu dog said:knee high. if really want to push it. the board paddles VERY good for a shortboard. I've had mine out in 2' surf and still able to get my fat ass into waves. granted I'd prefer to have my longboard at that point but it was an overhyped south swell and only had the PyzAlien in the car.kdropin said:whats the low range on these sleds? waist high? or higher.. i have a LSD chubby chedda thats getting tired wondering how it compares
My Firewire version (blah) paddled into knee-waist quite easily. It has very good paddle power and glide. I like the look of the shorter wider dims in the Pyzel version though as opposed to the FW ones. It did fine in big waves as long as they were flatter faced. Might pull the trigger on the 6'0 x 19.75 x 2.44 one this week.. Still humming and hawing about being overvolumed though. Seems to be in line with recommendations though - head height, the width I like in a smaller wave board and close-ish to my volume.kdropin said:whats the low range on these sleds? waist high? or higher.. i have a LSD chubby chedda thats getting tired wondering how it compares