Public vs Private Sector vaccine dispersal: Who's doing a better job?

grapedrink

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Where I live, private. The county system is non-responsive, and people who qualify end up waiting for weeks/months. Meanwhile, you can book appointments online with CVS/RiteAid/Ralphs etc and there are literally hundreds of appointments with less than a 1 week wait. Even people who work for the government, with priority, are asking about getting a vaccine are being told to wait with no suggestion for where else to look. Just wait for the government to take care of you like a good citizen!

Shouldn't the county governments and employee unions at least be referring people to other options if they cannot manage the capacity on their own?

Thank goodness for the free market, beats the government every time.
 

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Where I live, private. The county system is non-responsive, and people who qualify end up waiting for weeks/months. Meanwhile, you can book appointments online with CVS/RiteAid/Ralphs etc and there are literally hundreds of appointments with less than a 1 week wait. Even people who work for the government, with priority, are asking about getting a vaccine are being told to wait with no suggestion for where else to look. Just wait for the government to take care of you like a good citizen!

Shouldn't the county governments and employee unions at least be referring people to other options if they cannot manage the capacity on their own?

Thank goodness for the free market, beats the government every time.
None of this is surprising - you’d expect makeshift mass vaccine locations to run less efficiently, no? CVS isn’t running 4,000 people through a day. And they do vaccines for a living.
 

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Here is an email I sent out to all of my accounts last week:

"You probably all are aware but in case you are not, we in this industry are all eligible for vaccines now.

www.myturn.ca.gov (or myturn.ca.gov) is the website.

I had a lot of trouble getting in, been trying for a couple of days, but my boss, who is in San Francisco, had no problem getting through to make me an appt. Maybe it's a WAN/LAN thing, I don't know. But you know how during a natural disaster you are supposed to call long distance because local circuits get overloaded? Maybe it's like that with the internet. Maybe try having someone outside greater LA book an appt for you. If they get in they will need to speak with you while booking it cuz there's some call and response that has to happen with info and security codes.


Anyway, if you are looking to get a vaccine and having trouble, I hope this helps."

My boss, who lives in San Francisco, basically spent all night one night getting all of us in SoCal vaccine appts because none of us could get through, she even got my wife, who doesn't work for us, an appt.

Maybe this will help someone here get one if they want it.

I got my first at CSULA, administered by a soldier. So I guess that's public. Seems to be working well here.
 
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This is the link I used. Rite Aid also made it non-intuitive to find the link (intentionally?), because you had to jump through several links and finally a 6 page PDF with tiny print to find the California link I posted above. CVS was super easy, but there's less of those where I live and was fully booked close by. Either way, still better than the county system.

Seems that they are not even confirming your line of work for eligibility. If you want it, get it, because plenty of eligible people aren't and doses are going to waste.
 

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Yeah, at CSULA I wasn't asked my line of work and I brought a pay stub, biz card, and other docs cuz my paycheck comes from a parent company while my biz card has the DBA. My co-worker however, was asked for all of that. So YMMV. you DO have to state your line of work when signing up.

Just go get it if you want it.
 
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Question for grapedrink, do you think CVS, Rite Aid, Walgreens, etc could effectively and efficiently administer hundreds of millions of vaccinations if the government just left it up to the private sector? Or is it maybe that they're doing a better job because state and local governments are handling the brunt of the demand easing the demand on them?
 
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Question for grapedrink, do you think CVS, Rite Aid, Walgreens, etc could effectively and efficiently administer hundreds of millions of vaccinations if the government just left it up to the private sector? Or is it maybe that they're doing a better job because state and local governments are handling the brunt of the demand easing the demand on them?
They are doing a better job at scheduling, that’s for sure.
 

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If you want to see how well CVS is doing with available vaccination appointments click here...


Almost every CVS in the state is fully booked. If you’re in Fresno, Redding or Shasta you may be in luck.

Based on this article, it seems like supply is the biggest issue holding back both the public and private sectors...


“Despite meeting the 10-million dose milestone, officials throughout the state say they continue to be hampered by a limited supply of vaccines, which hindered the state’s initial goal to administer more than 12.5 million doses by the end of February.
Newsom said this week that the state is working to design a system that can deliver 4 million vaccines a week. However, next week, California is slated to receive only about 1.62 million doses.
The only constraint, the governor said Thursday, “is manufactured supply.”
State officials at a vaccine advisory committee meeting Friday said the hope is that allocations will increase in the long run. Shipments are expected to grow in the months ahead, and the rollout of the Johnson & Johnson single-dose vaccine will also augment supplies.
But in the short term, vaccines will remain scarce as more second doses are reserved while a growing number of people vie to get their initial shots as eligibility expands.”
 

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Nice dodge.
Not really, since we don’t have numbers to compare the county versus private shot stats. All I know is that I’ve been in the eligible group for weeks and have not gotten any update. The least they can do is point people elsewhere in the meantime if they can’t keep up.

This is your socialized medicine fantasy in action. own it brah.
 

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LOL!!! You can’t be serious. In your original post you were boasting about CVS having hundreds of available appointments. You do realize that there are almost 350 million Americans right? Assuming you’re in California there are +39million californians. Hundreds of appointments is a drop in the bucket.
 

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If you want to see how well CVS is doing with available vaccination appointments click here...


Almost every CVS in the state is fully booked. If you’re in Fresno, Redding or Shasta you may be in luck.

Based on this article, it seems like supply is the biggest issue holding back both the public and private sectors...


“Despite meeting the 10-million dose milestone, officials throughout the state say they continue to be hampered by a limited supply of vaccines, which hindered the state’s initial goal to administer more than 12.5 million doses by the end of February.
Newsom said this week that the state is working to design a system that can deliver 4 million vaccines a week. However, next week, California is slated to receive only about 1.62 million doses.
The only constraint, the governor said Thursday, “is manufactured supply.”
State officials at a vaccine advisory committee meeting Friday said the hope is that allocations will increase in the long run. Shipments are expected to grow in the months ahead, and the rollout of the Johnson & Johnson single-dose vaccine will also augment supplies.
But in the short term, vaccines will remain scarce as more second doses are reserved while a growing number of people vie to get their initial shots as eligibility expands.”
Do people still listen to that guy? Greasy Gavins cred has been in a downward spiral since this started, and the French Laundry was the icing on the cake.

Doses are being tossed because there is no secondary system for utilizing them.
 
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Got notice I was eligible on Thursday. Made appointment Friday. Went today. CSULA. In and out in 20 minutes. Airforce administering vaccines. Saw a FEMA truck. Very efficient. No complaints.
 
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LOL!!! You can’t be serious. In your original post you were boasting about CVS having hundreds of available appointments. You do realize that there are almost 350 million Americans right? Assuming you’re in California there are +39million californians. Hundreds of appointments is a drop in the bucket.
For a single location, per day. Literally 1 appointment every 3 minutes throughout the day. Multiplied by thousands of stores.
 

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Let’s not forget how and why the Private sector is distributing vaccines...


“The White House is doubling the amount of doses being delivered to retail pharmacies across the U.S., broadening the shipments from the 1 million doses sent to 6,500 pharmacies last week. The Biden administration will ship 2 million doses a week to outlets going forward and eventually will include 40,000 stores nationwide.

The federal government last week began sending supplies of COVID-19 vaccines to 21 national drugstore chains and to independent pharmacies in a move to accelerate distribution. The program will be implemented in stages, based on available vaccine supplies, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Pharmacies and retailers are also partnering with states to help speed the immunization effort.”


Is it really the free market? FWIW I’m all for the all hands on deck approach. Get it out there. But the victory lap you’re taking in this thread is LOL.
 

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The government should be giving out shots to people waiting in soup lines. That’s the one thing socialist governments excel at, so may as well kill 2 birds with one stone.

Plus it will condition us for our future.
 
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