Poast your strenf training program

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That’s where sandbags, kettlebells, lightweight barbells etc come in combined with compound lifts/movements and/or complexes that check off the four boxes (upper/lower push and upper/lower pulls). Your hitting targeted big muscle groups along with training (neglected) stabilizers and spending a lot of time under tension.

You’ll know you’ve picked the right load when you start out thinking this ain’t so bad and by the end of the 20 minutes you’ve been struggling not to quit for the last 5 or so.

Finally in conclusion there’s SAID, specifically adapted to imposed demands. If you do gnarly things (farmers walks, sandbags, barbell/dbl kb complexes etc) and get to the point to where you’re doing some gnarly work (carrying 35% bw per hand, 35% bw plus sandbag) you’re gonna look the part in addition to having some legit work capacity which is what I’m concerned with primarily
We're not communicating here.
 

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Staley x Reeves bro.
Always hated trad weightlifting/believed in the superiority of farm strength when it comes to athleticism.
Yeah, most of your beliefs tend to be faith-based, but not in the sense that you have evidence for them.
I also wished I’d wrestled in HS, figure might as well train like I did since you will be hard pressed to find better conditioned athletes
Strength is not the same thing as conditioning.
This guy's claim to fame is that his athletes win a lot, but of course winning is heavily dependent on recruiting and the coaches of the actual sports.
I work with or oversee all the athletes here at Wake Forest University-it's about 400 athletes. We try to maximize the athletic potential of every athlete we train. We start by developing their athleticism. We can't guarantee that we're going to win in football, basketball, or any sport for that matter. What we try to do is to develop better athletes. From that point forward, our sport coaches will take care of their sport skills. We train our athletes to be athletic, that's why we do a lot of barbell Olympic-type lifts…power cleans, hang cleans, clean-and-jerks, squat cleans, front squats, back squats and lunges. The barbell is a great way to train, but you also want to develop that core body, which is a big part of our philosophy, in a different way. Your upper quadriceps, upper hamstrings, gluteals (butt muscles), lower back, abdominals and obliques are all part of this core body. If you want to attack your core body in a different way, you have to train it differently. We do kettlebells in conjunction with the squatting-type movements and the Olympic-type lifting movements. We do the one-arm kettlebell lifts, and we've found them to be very effective because it develops the core in a much different way. So when we use kettlebells, we only use one hand; we will do… two-arm swings to warm up, but we focus on doing one-arm swings, one-arm snatches, one-arm cleans, one-arm presses and one-arm clean-and-jerks.
This guy is just a good pitch man. What parts of your body are not part of your "core body?" He says he tries to develop better athletes, but how? He likes barbells, but seems to be implying they don't train "the core body" How is this the case? He says the kettlebell develops the "core body" in a "much different way," but how? Does he mean, "Kettlebells provide a great contralateral stimulus which does ____?"

The problem with your critiques of coaches I post mostly Rip, Israetel, and Henselmanns (a natural btw) is that you never bother to critically evaluate the kooks you follow. You are yelling at me that I've driven into a ditch from a ditch of your own.
 
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Most people ignore or pay very little attention to the conditioning part of strength and conditioning. Both are important but you can't go all in on both at the same time. Both share the same resources and one is going to improve at the detriment of the other. I do a lot more conditioning specific work today than I did ten years ago even during heavy strength focused blocks. But I also don't finish a difficult anaerobic exercise complex and confuse being fatigued, hot and sweaty with strength training.

Chachski is motivated by slickly produced YouTube videos and online personalities, and basically does a backyard version of CrossFit....which is fine and if he's as dedicated to training that way as he is to arguing about in on the internet he's likely stronger and fitter than 90% of the people on earth. That's a good thing.
 
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Most people ignore or pay very little attention to the conditioning part of strength and conditioning. Both are important but you can't go all in on both at the same time. Both share the same resources and one is going to improve at the detriment of the other. I do a lot more conditioning specific work today than I did ten years ago even during heavy strength focused blocks. But I also don't finish a difficult anaerobic exercise complex and confuse being fatigued, hot and sweaty with strength training.

Chachski is motivated by slickly produced YouTube videos and online personalities, and basically does a backyard version of CrossFit....which is fine and if he's as dedicated to training that way as he is to arguing about in on the internet he's likely stronger and fitter than 90% of the people on earth. That's a good thing.
Being fitter than everyone else is an extremely low hurdle nowadays when most people look like 50 lbs of ___ in a 25 lb bag. I have no problem with calisthenics, btw. I do some myself (with overload). However, like you said, doing random amounts of them until fatigued or using them in EDT is not strength - it's conditioning - and the title of this thread is "Poast your strenf training program."
 

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Most people ignore or pay very little attention to the conditioning part of strength and conditioning. Both are important but you can't go all in on both at the same time. Both share the same resources and one is going to improve at the detriment of the other.

I know I ask a lot of dumb questions- but could you expand on this more?

What is the difference?
 

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I know I ask a lot of dumb questions- but could you expand on this more?

What is the difference?
Strength = anaerobic, conditioning = aerobic
Work capacity = both? Realized I ain’t got nothing to push so I decided to put some of the money I made off NVDA where my mouth is and just ordered a dank sled from Rogue as “last piece of the puzzle”. More fun/not fun lol ahead. Gonna hook the battle rope up to it for some wicked pulling action too.



"The High Intensity Interval Training protocol has been widely misappropriated with workouts that last too long and are not truly intense enough to experience the desired benefits. The High Intensity Repeat Training strategy calls for truly intense repeats that are short in duration followed by luxurious rest intervals."
-Dr. Craig Marker

 
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