Got to 100 pushups tonight. May not sound like a big deal but for a 53 year old with the shoulder issues I've had the past 5 or 6 years I'm pretty stoked.
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Poast your strenf training program
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In one set? I've got up to 40, that heart health threshold I linked in the heart health thread. Pretty bad form the last 3-4 though.
For Havoc, I feel your pain. My plan is simple. I write down everything I do. No DOMS? Next week up the reps. Slight DOMS keep it the same. Severe DOMS, dial it back. Last week I had no DOMS, so yesterday I dialed it up, and today I'm really sore and the SURF IS UP. Being sore and trying to surf sucks bugly. So this week (I try to do the barbell on Fridays because I try not to surf on weekends) I will dial it back ...
Tomorrow first surf on a new board in decent (I hope ) waves and I'll be sore...
ya same boat. in past tried to train on fridays as i dont surge weekends. just got a gold's gym membership on top of a home gym so i can do more accessory work instead of the big 4 lifts. what im realizing is at this point, st is better than nothing. i'd rather surf and train in the off-season or when the surf is down. it does suck for strenf gains as i made the most during lockdown with no surf.
nobody has surf 3+ days a week and kept up a strength training program. i've asked everyone and you basically can't do both at any decent level.
Not in one set. Do them to exhaustion take a quick break and start again keeping heart rate up. Sets of 10 at the end.
Our last solid swell a week ago I didn't think the surf was going to be as good as it turned out to be and the night before I put in a long hard workout at the gym. Was totally gassed the next day when the waves were firing. Really put a damper on my session. Lesson learned.
This week no running, no strength training. Just surfing. I’m not complaining. Well, maybe a little. Shoulder and neck were throbbing in pain last night. One advil knocked that down though. Forecast is for one more day of decent surf.
After another session I expect my should/neck to be pretty bad. Do I do my regularly scheduled barbell on Friday? What say ye strong men?
After another session I expect my should/neck to be pretty bad. Do I do my regularly scheduled barbell on Friday? What say ye strong men?
To lift or not to lift that is the question...
I'm going to ask again. So four days in row of good surf. Yesterday on a couple where I ducked into tubes my low back started cramping (quick sharp spasms). Same feeling that precipated 1 year of rehab. So after the second spasm, in a little shorebreak tube, I was out of there. Not going down that road again.
The back doesn't stay sore but my shoulder/neck stays really sore.
So do I do my weight training? I do overhead presses and barbell rows and they've never cause any joint pain. Same with squats and deadlifts. I got sore hamstrings but no jont pain or back pain.
I'm going to ask again. So four days in row of good surf. Yesterday on a couple where I ducked into tubes my low back started cramping (quick sharp spasms). Same feeling that precipated 1 year of rehab. So after the second spasm, in a little shorebreak tube, I was out of there. Not going down that road again.
The back doesn't stay sore but my shoulder/neck stays really sore.
So do I do my weight training? I do overhead presses and barbell rows and they've never cause any joint pain. Same with squats and deadlifts. I got sore hamstrings but no jont pain or back pain.
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You should be leaving your workouts feeling invigorated and like you have more in the tank, not depleted. Also good to not go to failure most of the time and finish your sets feeling like you could 1-2 more reps. The "you should be sore for days" and "take all sets to failure" is 80-90s era bro science that needs to die already.
You could always do 1-2 full body workouts focusing on the big 4-6. You won't progress with your lifts but you could certainly maintain. Looks like you mentioned that a few posts back
Thanks.
In trying to self diagnose I was suspecting the trapezius. The levator ends at the shoulder blade. The trap ends on top of the shoulder, which is the path of my pain- from the back of the neck, across the top of the shoulder and ending in the head of the humerous (only left side). Originally I was thinking shoulder impingement or rotator cuff, however I went through the below linked exam and had no significant pain. So I think the pain is more neck related.
When I surf I have to consciously avoid doing the instinctive head flick after a duck dive.
Not much online in the way of neck exercises. They're all stretches.
Shoulder Exam Tutorial
Conducting a proper shoulder exam is crucial to treating shoulder pain, a common outpatient complaint. No matter the cause, it is important to be familiar with some basic examination tools that can help us confirm the presence of a shoulder lesion.
stanfordmedicine25.stanford.edu
ps I figure, what the hell, go ahead and do the barbell work today. If it makes it worse, lesson learned...
pps I could wait until tomorrow but when (if) I get DOMS it usually lasts two days and Monday surf is back up. Fook me, I'm living Havoc's dilemma.
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I guess, coming from distance running I have a certain mindset. You do a long run and you're exhausted.
I've learned that I must not overdo my squats even though I feel I have MUCH more in the tank....or I will pay the price with hamstring DOMS for at least two days.
I wouldn't worry about some orthopedic cause of the pain. You're probably right about the trap.Thanks.
In trying to self diagnose I was suspecting the trapezius. The levator ends at the shoulder blade. The trap ends on top of the shoulder, which is the path of my pain- from the back of the neck, across the top of the shoulder and ending in the head of the humerous (only left side). Originally I was thinking shoulder impingement or rotator cuff, however I went through the below linked exam and had no significant pain. So I think the pain is more neck related.
When I surf I have to consciously avoid doing the instinctive head flick after a duck dive.
Not much online in the way of neck exercises.
Shoulder Exam Tutorial
Conducting a proper shoulder exam is crucial to treating shoulder pain, a common outpatient complaint. No matter the cause, it is important to be familiar with some basic examination tools that can help us confirm the presence of a shoulder lesion.
ps I figure, what the hell, go ahead and do the barbell work today. If it makes it worse, lesson learned...
Do some head circles, shoulder circles, drink more water, and forget about it.
Strength training to the rescue...again.
I should get some heavier dumbells.
www.health.harvard.edu
I should get some heavier dumbells.
Strength training relieves chronic neck pain - Harvard Health
In a study, women who followed a program of exercises designed to strengthen neck and shoulder muscles experienced a significant decrease in neck pain. ...
www.health.harvard.edu
For sure. While there is some overlap, cardio and strength training place a different kind of stress on the body. Muscles don't get strong from the "callusing" effect of tearing fibers and building them back over. Strength is an adaptation to a stimulus.
Yup.Strength training to the rescue...again.
I should get some heavier dumbells.
Strength training relieves chronic neck pain - Harvard Health
In a study, women who followed a program of exercises designed to strengthen neck and shoulder muscles experienced a significant decrease in neck pain. ...
And I have found this to be worth the money. And they ain't that cheap.
Iron Neck Training | Neck Exercise Machine & Strengthening Equipment (iron-neck.com)
I was going to suggest bridging but either way it does sound like some neck training could help
Gnarly wrestling style bridging agreed but something told me Max had an alternative and of course he did because he’s one of the smartest dudes I’ve ever met.
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