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Autoprax

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What about a pad under your chest?

It's old guy sh!t but if you want to keep surfing.

Also, work on your t-spine mobility so the next doesn't have to work so hard.

The weird thing about the t-spine is that is will loosen up when you brace your core.
 

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For t-spine I do the "open book" which really does the entire spine-

For shoulders what am I not doing? Push ups, pull ups, overhead presses,YTWLs, bent over rows, supermans, barbell shrugs, skull crushers...

I went to the PT yesterday and gave her my weekly schedule. She said I got an A+ for my homework and only added one stretch (armpit sniff). She said there was not much more I could do PT wise and I only needed to call if my condition gets noticeably worse.

If I don't surf I think I'd have no problems, because only surfing triggers my low back and my neck /shoulder. I think I just have to live with it. Today I surfed some pretty big waves and for the first time in my life I go suck back over the falls on my board trying to punch through a lip. Got rag dolled pretty heavily and back is sore now. In Sierra Leone they had this saying that they said for just about everything "ow fo du?" Basically, what are you going to do? Kind of resignation. I kind of resigned to dealing with pain during and after surfing. The agony and the ecstasy.
 

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For t-spine I do the "open book" which really does the entire spine-

For shoulders what am I not doing? Push ups, pull ups, overhead presses,YTWLs, bent over rows, supermans, barbell shrugs, skull crushers...

I went to the PT yesterday and gave her my weekly schedule. She said I got an A+ for my homework and only added one stretch (armpit sniff). She said there was not much more I could do PT wise and I only needed to call if my condition gets noticeably worse.

If I don't surf I think I'd have no problems, because only surfing triggers my low back and my neck /shoulder. I think I just have to live with it. Today I surfed some pretty big waves and for the first time in my life I go suck back over the falls on my board trying to punch through a lip. Got rag dolled pretty heavily and back is sore now. In Sierra Leone they had this saying that they said for just about everything "ow fo du?" Basically, what are you going to do? Kind of resignation. I kind of resigned to dealing with pain during and after surfing. The agony and the ecstasy.
You could try Conor Harris’ total body reset and cut down the number of sets and reps to numbers you’ll do. You could also try Somatics. It sounds like it’s one entire side of your body but it’s most-bothersome on one side of your neck. Everything’s connected, so I can’t say whether you can just try to loosen your shoulders. PTs are pretty useless in my experience.
 

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Seems similar to me. I ran Squatober in January, and was impressed. As a 53 yr old, I made it into the 1000lb club after that month. A fun challenge to compete with my kids. Now I'm about maintaining and endurance work to prepare for a season of hiking and surfing.
Congratulations - this is something few young men can accomplish. What did your training look like to achieve this total? (I suspect you have no use for dem 35s I gave you anymore haha).
 
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Since @VonMeister is still globe-trotting, I will do my best to substitute. I saw Menno's exercise variations on Renaissance Periodization and his literature reviews are absolutely top shelf:

TL DR: Slowing the eccentric phase adds time under tension but you do fewer reps. It doesn't give more overload because the weight still has to be lifted concentrically. Also, pausing at the bottom or going too slowly probably hinders stretch-mediated hypertrophy. Control the eccentric, do not belabor it. Anticipate the concentric and use the stretch reflex. (Rip was right)

We're bad at estimating RPE (Rip was right):
http://instagr.am/p/CxN6_vruiB-/

In light one of Menno's videos and personal experience, I'm not sure this is correct except for the part about fatiguing the posterior chain affecting posterior chain exercises. IOW, if you're using more weight due to a low bar, you're recruiting more muscle as the nervous system concludes, "ALL HANDS ON DECK" and recruits more QUADZ regardless of the precise leverages and biomechanics.

That said, I've been taking Von Meister's advice and using Hatfield squats since it's more like a home hack squat machine. My oldest started doing them too and he's turned into a little grasshopper with his vertical - he's touching the backboard at 5'8". Dads who lift weights definitely encourage more athleticism in their kids.
 

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Congratulations - this is something few young men can accomplish. What did your training look like to achieve this total? (I suspect you have no use for dem 35s I gave you anymore haha).
Yep, I donated the 35s to my kid. I've been training for years with a lot of different programs, and after a shoulder injury around 2018 it took me several years to get to pain free for heavish weights. The last year I started with some of the other programs run by the Squatober guru (penandpaperstrengthapp), just because I like the programming. Then I started Paul Horn's Radically Simple Strength program around June and ran that as a 4 day program over the summer through September. In October & November, I started with Tactical Barbell to start working on my conditioning and endurance since I was going to be travelling for a couple of months. That was a nice de-load. December I just farted around with random heavy days to keep my strength up, and then January went whole hog.

My funny learning experience is that I had my mind set on a 350 squat and a 425 deadlift. My kid managed to push up 365 on squat, so I thought for sure I could get it. Well, being over 50 is enlightening. 350 went no where, and same with 225. Instead, my 1RM for squat and deadlift only increased 5 lbs over the past year. But, I'll take it. I'm injury free, and mostly pain free, and able to surf multiple times a week. So now I'm running Paul Horn's program b/c I can get in and out of the gym quickly, I get stronger, and recovery is good. I'm planning to be ready for the Catalina hike in a few months.
 

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Hip mobility update for @casa_mugrienta and @john4surf. I've been doing the Somatics audio lessons on Rick Olderman's website. The marketing on this is awful but a lot of PTs use Somatics to great effect.
Somatics don't always adequately train and expand mobility at the end range of motion, however. For that, I've found this guy helpful.
Much of my hip pain is actually referred from my QL. For that, I just do a twist in my chair using the back of the chair along with an isometric contraction followed by a contralateral contraction. Some of the somatics techniques work for this too. This exercise is in Rick Olderman's SOmatics audio lessons too:

I found static stretching to be mostly useless. I statically stretch my hips and QL a bunch and got no results.
 
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