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Duffy LaCoronilla

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people like you !! :) )

yes that is true !! )

Again, very misleading using “homicides” instead of “murders”.

Those two are not the same thing.

Nice try, though.


Homicide is a legal term that refers to any killing of one person by another (even a killing that is legally justified). By contrast, murder is always a crime and is generally defined as a particular type of homicidewhere someone kills another intentionally and with malice aforethought.”
 

sizzld1

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How so?

  • Homicide. A homicide is a death resulting from the use of physical force or power, threatened or actual, against another person, group, or community when a preponderance of evidence indicates that the use of force was intentional. Two special scenarios that CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) regards as homicides are included in the NVDRS case definition: 1) arson with no specified intent to injure someone and 2) a stabbing with intent unspecified. This category also includes the following scenarios: 1) deaths when the suspect intended to only injure rather than kill the victim, 2) deaths resulting from heart attack induced when the suspect used force or power against the victim, 3) deaths that occurred when a person killed an attacker in self-defense, 4) deaths resulting from a weapon that discharged unintentionally while being used to control or frighten a victim, 5) deaths attributed to child abuse without intent being specified, 6) deaths attributed to an intentional act of neglect by one person against another, 7) deaths of live-born infants that resulted from a direct injury due to violence sustained before birth, and 8) deaths identified as justifiable homicide when the person committing homicide was not a law enforcement officer. This category excludes vehicular homicide without intent to injure, unintentional poisoning deaths due to illicit or prescription drug overdose even when the person who provided drugs was charged with homicide, unintentional firearm deaths (a separate category in NVDRS), combat deaths or acts of war, deaths of unborn fetuses, and deaths of infants that resulted indirectly from violence sustained by the mother before birth (e.g., death from prematurity following premature labor brought on by violence). Corresponding ICD-10 codes included in NVDRS are X85–X99, Y00–Y09, Y87.1, and U01–U02 (Box 1).
 

Duffy LaCoronilla

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I agree that total gun deaths isn’t a good way to evaluate safety of a country.

but the US stats for gun homicide are nothing to brag about or defend either. Yemen and Palestine are doing better than us. And first world countries are generally half of what we are.
I’m sure Yemen keeps accurate records on such things.

Palestine? Doesn’t exist.
 

Duffy LaCoronilla

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Homicide is a legal term that refers to any killing of one person by another (even a killing that is legally justified). By contrast, murder is always a crime and is generally defined as a particular type of homicidewhere someone kills another intentionally and with malice aforethought.”


That’s how.
 

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sizzld1

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Homicide is a legal term that refers to any killing of one person by another (even a killing that is legally justified). By contrast, murder is always a crime and is generally defined as a particular type of homicidewhere someone kills another intentionally and with malice aforethought.”


That’s how.
Got it. How much influence do you think justified gun deaths have on the numbers?

In 2016, there were only 274 justifiable homicides involving a gun. For the five-year period 2012 through 2016, there were only 1,233 justifiable homicides involving a gun. [For additional information see Table One: Firearm Justifiable Homicides by State, 2012-2016.]
Looks like a bit less than 3% of gun related homicides...

In 2016, for every justifiable homicide in the United States involving a gun, guns were used in 37 criminal homicides. For the five-year period 2012 through 2016, for every justifiable homicide in the United States involving a gun, guns were used in 35 criminal homicides. [For additional information see Table Two: Circumstances for Homicides by Firearm, 2012-2016.]
 
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sirfun

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The answer (to me) is obvious. The people who present these stats about “gun deaths” are being misleading, disingenuous and spreading disinformation/propaganda.
people like you !! :) )

yes that is true !! )



WHAT IS YOUR MOTIVE FOR SPREADING disinformation/propaganda ?? )



:)



Don’t act dumb.
:)

Again mixing ”gun deaths” all together when over half of them are suicides, some accidents and most of the rest gang related shootings in very specific neighborhoods.
YOU CAN BACK THAT UP ANY DAY NOW !! :roflmao:


Are you retarded or on the spectrum?

:roflmao:
 
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hammies

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