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*** Official Right wingers storm US Capitol Building Thread ***
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Perhaps Marc Elias, despite apparently being a lawyer, needs a civics refresher. The military has no bearing on this shitshow, so it seems weird to have a lawyer citing the Joint Chiefs as any sort of authority on legal matters.
arrests are a top of funnel metric, I'm more interested in prosecutions and convictions. Many DAs around the country have decided not to pursue charges for various offenses, so those arrested face no consequences. For low level charges, I probably agree. For vandalism, burglary, looting assault etc. nope. Admittedly it will take time for the cases to get to trial, so the convictions will take some time. But even so, I'd say in general the response has not been aggressive investigation and prosecution of serious crimes surrounding the various protests on both sides of 2020.
damn, dog, did you call the Joint Chiefs to correct their hyperbole?!
READ: Military Joint Chiefs statement condemning 'sedition and insurrection' at US Capitol | CNN Politics
America's most senior general Mark Milley and the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff, which is comprised of the heads of each military branch, issued a statement Tuesday condemning the violent invasion of the US Capitol last week and reminding service members of their obligation to support and defend...
www.cnn.com
you know, Lynn does NOT look very happy in this picture you sent....
I do like how you gave yourself massive pecs, shoulders, and biceps!
BAAAAAHHHH!!! MILUHTAREEE INDUSTREEEEUL COMPLEKSSS!!!!damn, dog, did you call the Joint Chiefs to correct their hyperbole?!
READ: Military Joint Chiefs statement condemning 'sedition and insurrection' at US Capitol | CNN Politics
America's most senior general Mark Milley and the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff, which is comprised of the heads of each military branch, issued a statement Tuesday condemning the violent invasion of the US Capitol last week and reminding service members of their obligation to support and defend...
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How many of the crimes committed over the summer involved breaking into, vandalism of, and threats against the Capitol of the United States of America (and its congress-people)?
I'm not sure if there were any, what's your point?
For Washington DC in general:
1,014 charges have been filed against the 737 individuals. These charges are in the following categories:
- 395 (39%) Curfew Violations
- 111 (11%): Felony Rioting (tumultuous and violent conduct with grave danger of or actual serious injury to persons or serious property damage)
- 60 (6%): Burglary
- 69 (7%): Assault on a police officer
- 38 (3%): Other property crimes (damaging, receiving stolen)
- 47 (5%): Unlawful entry
- 51 (5%): Simple assaults and threats
- 35 (3%): Resisting arrest
- 72 (7%): Weapons violations
- 136 (13%): Other (ADW, disorderly, riot misdemeanor, narcotics, traffic, release violations, arson, lewd, indecent, or obscene acts)
May 2020-April 2021 Unrest-Related Arrests and Persons of Interest | mpdc
There are peaceful demonstrations in the District of Columbia on a daily basis. The same rules apply for all demonstrations in DC and we welcome anyone to our city who wants to come to exercise their First Amendment rights peacefully. The Metropolitan Police Department will work with organizers...
that apparently does not include the following individuals "The Metropolitan Police Department has obtained photo and video footage of numerous individuals committing criminal acts in Washington, DC."
there's also this:
U.S. Attorney For D.C. Refutes Bowser's Claims That The Office Lacks 'Willingness' To Prosecute Protesters
In a letter to Bowser, the U.S. Attorney says MPD didn't provide the "bare minimum of articulable facts" to prosecute most of those arrested during this weekend's protests.
dcist.com
followed by this
U.S. Attorney Retreats On Claims That D.C. Police Lacked Probable Cause For Protesters' Arrests
The U.S. Attorney for D.C. previously suggested that D.C. police provided unsubstantial evidence for the arrests of protesters this summer.
dcist.com
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Pence Reached His Limit With Trump. It Wasn’t Pretty. (Published 2021)
After four years of tongue-biting silence that critics say enabled the president’s worst instincts, the vice president would not yield to the pressure and name-calling from his boss.
and they're just getting started.I'm not sure if there were any, what's your point?
For Washington DC in general:
1,014 charges have been filed against the 737 individuals. These charges are in the following categories:
- 395 (39%) Curfew Violations
- 111 (11%): Felony Rioting (tumultuous and violent conduct with grave danger of or actual serious injury to persons or serious property damage)
- 60 (6%): Burglary
- 69 (7%): Assault on a police officer
- 38 (3%): Other property crimes (damaging, receiving stolen)
- 47 (5%): Unlawful entry
- 51 (5%): Simple assaults and threats
- 35 (3%): Resisting arrest
- 72 (7%): Weapons violations
- 136 (13%): Other (ADW, disorderly, riot misdemeanor, narcotics, traffic, release violations, arson, lewd, indecent, or obscene acts)
May 2020-April 2021 Unrest-Related Arrests and Persons of Interest | mpdc
There are peaceful demonstrations in the District of Columbia on a daily basis. The same rules apply for all demonstrations in DC and we welcome anyone to our city who wants to come to exercise their First Amendment rights peacefully. The Metropolitan Police Department will work with organizers...mpdc.dc.gov
that apparently does not include the following individuals "The Metropolitan Police Department has obtained photo and video footage of numerous individuals committing criminal acts in Washington, DC."
there's also this:
U.S. Attorney For D.C. Refutes Bowser's Claims That The Office Lacks 'Willingness' To Prosecute Protesters
In a letter to Bowser, the U.S. Attorney says MPD didn't provide the "bare minimum of articulable facts" to prosecute most of those arrested during this weekend's protests.
followed by this
U.S. Attorney Retreats On Claims That D.C. Police Lacked Probable Cause For Protesters' Arrests
The U.S. Attorney for D.C. previously suggested that D.C. police provided unsubstantial evidence for the arrests of protesters this summer.
I should clarify, the vast majority of the arrests I listed are for 2020, here is the subset for 2021:
January 2021: There were 83 unrest-related arrests, comprised of:
- 1: Thursday afternoon 12/31 into Friday morning 01/01 (0 juveniles)
- 2: Monday afternoon 01/04 into Tuesday morning 01/05 (0 juveniles)
- 10: Tuesday afternoon 01/05 into Wednesday morning 01/06 (0 juveniles)
- 69: Wednesday afternoon 01/06 into Thursday morning 01/07 (1 juvenile)
- 1: Friday afternoon 1/8 into Sunday morning 01/09 (0 juvenile)
This is the world's easiest money. Any technical things on the delegate count? Like, the Winner-take-all primaries should be easy enough, but what about the caucuses that wind up proportionally allocated? What if Romney (CHORTLE) wins a primary somewhere other than Utah (guffaw) but someone's delegates try to pull a Ron Paul and try to get themselves made delegates, but then be faithless at the convention and go for a different candidate?
Should it be Fox News or CNN or FiveThirtyEight's tally instead of the GOP's?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I can't believe you are giving me the previous go-round's runner up and Hawley and you get some living fossil - the male Mormon Susan Collins, and Ben Sasse.
LOL
Be careful. Might find yourself Ben. Might get it up the Sasse.
My point is that the crimes are different in severity with regards to the law, hence the response by the FBI for Jan 6 vs mostly by DC metro for the summer events. The US Capitol building was breached with congresspeople inside, with threats (direct, implied, or violent rhetoric) against these persons, vandalism, and violence against Capitol police. I hate to use another rhetorical question to make my point but I’m tired and lazy right now, so: is it any surprise that an attack (for lack of a better word) on the Capitol elicited an aggressive response for justice by the FBI?
given the likely fuckery at the convention and copious amounts of RNC rule changes between now and then, let's go with whatever the RNC determines the final delegate count to be at the end of the 2024 Red board Convention.
How much and in what denomination? Should we pick some type of crypto to make it wildly risky or trivial?
absolutely not a surprise and I'm glad they are doing so
Maybe I didn't understand your initial response. I think that if the various layers of Federal, State and Local police had thoroughly and consistently arrested, charged and prosecuted people causing mayhem (ie serious crimes, not failure to disperse or violating curfew etc.) in 2020 that we wouldn't have had this shitshow on 1/6/2021. Do you agree or disagree with that?