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Not the same . . . But what exactly were they getting paid for? Should they actually get paid to add to the chaos?
There's a huge difference between paying informants from extremists movements (that were going to be at jan. 6 anyways) and paying informants for the sole purpose of creating chaos.

If you apply the same pay-for-chaos logic to street gangs.... is it the Feds who are puppeteering gang violence because they have paid informants? Or are they just paying select members of a group for information from groups who are going to commit the crime anyways?
 

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There's a huge difference between paying informants from extremists movements (that were going to be at jan. 6 anyways) and paying informants for the sole purpose of creating chaos.
Agreed.

If you apply the same pay-for-chaos logic to street gangs.... is it the Feds who are puppeteering gang violence because they have paid informants? Or are they just paying select members of a group for information from groups who are going to commit the crime anyways?
Again, it comes down to their actions. Were they actively encouraging and partaking in more chaos than what was already happening? :unsure:
 
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AND THE PRE-EMPTIVE PARDON ASK FOR ers !! :) )


Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ) used his weekly email newsletter—hosted on a .gov domain that is funded by American taxpayers—on Sunday to launch a thinly veiled, homophobic attack on Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mark Milley, shockingly suggesting Milley should be put to death.

The diatribe came in a section commenting on former Capitol Police Chief Stephen Sund’s testimony to the House Committee on Administration last week, in which Sund discussed the Capitol riot. Sund called the events of Jan. 6 “an intelligence failure” and said he wished several agencies and individuals—from the Pentagon to then-President Donald Trump—had reacted more swiftly to provide back-up for local law enforcement.

But in Gosar’s recantation of the day’s events, Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) remained the villain of the riots, though it was Milley—“the homosexual-promoting-BLM-activist Chairman of the military joint chiefs”—who delayed the deployment of the National Guard, Gosar claimed.

“Of course, we now know that the deviant Milley was coordinating with Nancy Pelosi to hurt President Trump, and treasonously working behind Trump’s back,” Gosar wrote in a screed far-removed from the truth. “In a better society, quislings like the strange sodomy-promoting General Milley would be hung.”

Gosar also accused Milley of being a “traitor” who coordinated with the Chinese military and actively worked against Trump. The attacks echo what Trump himself seemed to wish upon Milley, writing in a Truth Social post on Friday that “in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH!”

Milley made two calls to a Chinese general both before and after the 2020 election to defuse tensions between the two nations after China received intelligence that Trump would attack the country. He later told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the calls, which Trump has previously labeled treasonous, were an effort to “deconflict military actions, manage crisis, and prevent war between great powers that are armed with the world’s most deadliest weapons.”

Gosar, who reportedly sought a preemptive pardon for his role in promoting Trump’s election lies in the lead-up to the riot, has spread numerous deluded—and somewhat contradictory—claims about Jan. 6 ever since, including blaming the riot on antifa and calling rioters merely “peaceful patriots.”

Even his own siblings said in a 2021 ad that aired on Fox News, “There is no one member of Congress more responsible for the attack on the Capitol than Congressman Paul Gosar.”…
 
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Not the same . . . But what exactly were they getting paid for? Should they actually get paid to add to the chaos?
nice straw man

you think the informants are paid to "add to the chaos"?

my understanding is that paid informants are paid for information?

are paid informants totally under the control of their handlers at all times?

I don't think that's how it works
 

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nice straw man

you think the informants are paid to "add to the chaos"?

my understanding is that paid informants are paid for information?
I don't think that's how it works
Well of course, this is what they are supposed to do. If they enable and encourage in order to bait people into doing something stupid, then that's a problem. I've heard conflicting reports of this for 1/6.
 

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Well of course, this is what they are supposed to do. If they enable and encourage in order to bait people into doing something stupid, then that's a problem. I've heard conflicting reports of this for 1/6.
Things were simpler back 200 years ago.

Back then, the 1/6ers would just have been press-ganged.

Think about how awesome it would be if we sent them out on recycled pangas to take over Greenland. And they succeeded. I mean, it's hard to picture a Danish navy - I'd imagine they spend a lot of time watching The Little Mermaid and the many spinoffs over a never-ending pile of rollmops.
 
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Well of course, this is what they are supposed to do. If they enable and encourage in order to bait people into doing something stupid, then that's a problem. I've heard conflicting reports of this for 1/6.
but what we haven't heard is specifics

this is just another in a long line of attempts made at deflecting from the bad behavior that occurred on January 6th

ANTIFA, Ray Epps, Squidtard's "Scaffolding Commander"....now it's a Fed Op with the weird little attempt to spin "paid informants" as "undercover agents"

like it's unfathomable that these drones did what they did without the aid of some government conspiracy

because Trumpers aren't totally fkn unhinged otherwise....
 

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Well of course, this is what they are supposed to do. If they enable and encourage in order to bait people into doing something stupid, then that's a problem. I've heard conflicting reports of this for 1/6.

where and what are these reports?

add this to the pantheon of grapesdad's nebulous claims and statements
 
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Well of course, this is what they are supposed to do. If they enable and encourage in order to bait people into doing something stupid, then that's a problem. I've heard conflicting reports of this for 1/6.
Also, isn't that kind of what Trump did, baiting them with all these false election claims when he otherwise knew the truth?