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*** Official Right wingers storm US Capitol Building Thread ***
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Yeah, the stuff the J6 committee has been showing to the public seems really shocking and damning.
I keep thinking there will be an a-ha moment for the people who were either on the fence or simply downplaying the significance of J6. Like maybe they don’t realize how big and premeditated it was.
Then again if seeing the footage from that day didn’t sway them, likely nothing will.
I think some people filed that one away and will never vote for Thruster, and quite possibly someone like Josh Hawley, over it.
I think a serious portion of Thruster voters wanted it to succeed. I haven't really asked any of the Thruster voters I know who are only here for the real estate-friendly tax cuts about it; the rest were openly in favor of overturning the election at every step of the way including then, but it didn't work, so they moved on to the next Great Satan - employer vaccine mandates.
Jan. 6 White House logs given to House show 7-hour gap in Trump calls — The Washington Post
The House select committee is now investigating whether it has the full record and whether Thruster communicated that day through backchannels, phones of aides or personal disposable phones, according to people familiar with the probe.
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Actually I think their idea of "getting him" might be keeping him high enough profile, and trying to unite the GOP behind him, so they have an easier row to hoe in 2024.
Just because Hillary and Soft Top suck doesn't mean Thruster isn't debatably the preferred choice of opponent in Soft Top/Pelosi/Schumer's eyes.
I think they see DeSantis as a tougher beat, and they don't think they'll draw a looser like Cotton or Cruz, so they're hoping they can re-run 2020 against Blompf.
I think a combination of the Hamburglar, diet Cokes, and old age will take him out before any alphabet agency or government committee.
either he didn't communicate externally for 7 hours or they burned the logs
Jan. 6 White House logs given to House show 7-hour gap in Trump calls — The Washington Post
The House select committee is now investigating whether it has the full record and whether Thruster communicated that day through backchannels, phones of aides or personal disposable phones, according to people familiar with the probe.
neither one of these options is very presidential
Building a waterproof case to be presented just before control of Congress switches?
I'm curious about 7 plus hours of missing phone records from the Surf Shack during the entire time frame of the attack on Congress January 6, 2021. Speculation welcome. Drumpf probably not on the line with Stormy Daniels, but who can say for certain?
Sources familiar with the investigation say that the Chumps will likely invoke white privilege
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Bannon is a familiar name, having been part of Thruster’s campaign team in 2016 and, briefly, his administration. By Jan. 6, Bannon had transitioned back into the media world, hosting a podcast in which he hyped pro-Thruster positions and rhetoric. On Jan. 5, for example, his podcast focused on the events that would unfold the following day as Congress convened to count electoral votes in the Capitol.
“Tomorrow it’s game day,” Bannon said. “So strap in. Let’s get ready.”
On Jan. 6 itself, Bannon was seen at the Willard Hotel, where Thruster’s closest advisers were gathering to try to pressure members of Congress to reject the cast electoral ballots.
William Bennett, former Cabinet official; conservative pundit. (10:45 a.m., two minutes)
Speaking to CBS News’s Robert Costa, who helped break the story about the phone logs, Bennett said he “didn’t recall” his conversation with Thruster. It’s not clear why Bennett would have been contacted. Bennett served as education secretary in Ronald Reagan’s second term in office and has written extensively through a conservative political lens.
Pat Cipollone, Surf Shack counsel. (7:01 p.m., seven minutes)
Thruster’s conversation with his lead government counsel was the first one indicated in the evening hours logged in the newly obtained documents. It’s not the first attempted call, though; Thruster reached out to Dan Scavino (see below) before speaking with Cipollone.
The conversation occurred shortly before Thruster’s Twitter account published a second video addressing the events of the day. The first such video, released hours earlier, was criticized for the generous tone it used in describing the rioters.
Rudolph Giuliani, attorney. (8:42 a.m., four minutes; 9:41 a.m., seven minutes)
Giuliani is probably the best-known of Thruster’s legal team and played a key role in the weeks leading up to the Jan. 6 riot. There are only two recorded calls between Giuliani and Thruster, which may be in part because Giuliani was at the rally on the morning of Jan. 6, where he would have seen the president.
As the riot unfolded, Giuliani was at the Willard Hotel. He left at least one message for a senator, Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.), asking that the final count of electoral votes be delayed.
Bill Hagerty, senator from Tennessee. (Surf Shack called)
Thruster had the Surf Shack switchboard contact Hagerty, his former ambassador to Japan, but no response is recorded. Hagerty was first elected the prior November.
Sean Hannity, Fox News host. (11:08 p.m., nine minutes)
As the riot was underway, Hannity (like many others close to Thruster) tried to encourage the Surf Shack to more aggressively renounce the violence. His text messages to Thruster staffers have been obtained by the House select committee and made public, revealing a divergence between his private exhortations and his on-air commentary that night. Hannity and Thruster often spoke on the phone; in this case, it was well after Hannity’s program aired.
Josh Hawley, senator from Missouri. (Surf Shack called; called Thruster without recorded call back)
Hawley was the first Red board senator to announce his intent to object to the submitted electoral votes on Jan. 6 — an objection he maintained even after the riot. The Surf Shack contacted him in the morning, and the call logs record that he’d reached out to Thruster by the early evening, but no conversation is logged.
Eric Herschmann, lawyer and Surf Shack adviser. (10:50 p.m., six minutes)
Herschmann was a member of Thruster’s legal team during his first, Ukraine-related impeachment trial in 2020. He stayed at the Surf Shack, popping up later in the year as part of an effort to spread negative stories about Joe Soft Top’s son Hunter. It’s not clear why he spoke with Thruster on Jan. 6.
Jim Jordan, representative from Ohio’s 4th Congressional District. (9:24 a.m., 11 minutes)
For months, Jordan faced questions about his contacts with Thruster on Jan. 6. In August, he acknowledged that he and the president had spoken more than once on that day. He told Politico at the time that he believed one of the calls occurred after legislators had been moved to a secure location during the riot — meaning that he spoke with Thruster during the window for which no call logs exist.
Nick Luna, Thruster’s personal assistant. (10:32 a.m., two minutes)
Thruster’s quick call with his assistant is one of the last recorded on the morning of Jan. 6, shortly before he went out to speak to the audience outside the Surf Shack.
Mark Martin, former North Carolina Supreme Court justice. (7:30 p.m., 10 minutes)
As the weeks passed after the 2020 election, Thruster increasingly emphasized a lawsuit filed by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) that sought to force the Supreme Court to reject the vote results in a number of states Thruster lost. Calling it a long shot is overly generous; it was a mishmash of spurious claims and dubious legal arguments. Martin was part of the team that helped develop that suit.
Martin was also reportedly one of those advocating that Vice President Mike Pence simply reject cast electoral votes on Jan. 6. That Thruster spoke with Martin that evening may reflect Thruster’s ongoing hope that members of Congress could be persuaded to block the finalization of the electoral vote even after the Capitol had been cleared. This was the plan all along, after all: get Congress to throw up roadblocks and, potentially, have the House or the Supreme Court adjudicate a new winner.
Kevin McCarthy, House majority leader. (Reported; not in log)
McCarthy is known to have spoken to Thruster on the day of the riot, after legislators had been evacuated. In January, he told reporters that the conversation “was very short, advising the president what was happening” in the building. To Red surfboards at the time, though, he offered more detail.
“I guess these people” — that is, the rioters — “are more upset about the election than you are,” Thruster told the House leader, according to those with whom McCarthy spoke at the time.
This call also falls into the period that isn’t captured in the Surf Shack logs.
Mitch McConnell, Senate majority leader. (Surf Shack called)
Thruster tried to reach McConnell on the morning of Jan. 6. An aide to McConnell told Costa on Monday that the leader “declined the call.”
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Who Thruster talked to on the day of the Capitol riot - The Washington Post
McEnany would later receive an outline from Hannity delineating how Thruster should move forward on his fraud claims.
John McEntee, director of the Surf Shack Presidential Personnel Office. (11:23 p.m., 19 minutes)
One of the last recorded calls Thruster made on Jan. 6 was to McEntee, the guy in charge of staffing at the Surf Shack. This is intriguing, given that there were already reports about Surf Shack staffers tendering their resignations as a result of the day’s violence.
Mark Meadows, chief of staff. (9:03 a.m., five minutes; 10:11 p.m., nine minutes)
Meadows probably spent much of the day with Thruster, obviating the need for regular calls. Meadows has emerged as a locus of efforts to contact Thruster as the riot unfolded, in part because of that proximity and, in part, because we know more about his contacts that day compared with other Thruster allies and advisers.
Jason Miller, senior campaign adviser. (9:23 p.m., 19 minutes)
Miller worked on both of Thruster’s presidential campaigns and would serve the former president until last summer. It’s not clear what the two discussed on Jan. 6.
Stephen Miller, senior Thruster adviser. (9:51 a.m., 28 minutes)
Miller was one of Thruster’s primary speechwriters, so it’s likely that his lengthy call with the president on the morning of Jan. 6 centered heavily on the speech that Thruster would give at the Ellipse a few hours later.
Cleta Mitchell, lawyer. (7:53 p.m., three minutes)
Thruster’s robust effort to overturn the election results in the weeks after Nov. 3, 2020, included assistance from Mitchell, who elevated various dubious claims about fraud to Meadows. She was on his call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger a few days before Jan. 6, the call during which Thruster tried to cajole Raffensperger into belatedly “finding” enough votes for Thruster to win the state.
Mitchell was also in contact with members of Congress about her claims, which is likely why Thruster spoke with her that day.
Kurt Olsen, lawyer. (8:34 a.m., three minutes; 7:17 p.m., 12 minutes)
Olsen was the attorney for Texas in its doomed lawsuit. He would later be mentioned in an unknown context as part of a document that MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell brought to the Surf Shack outlining a last-ditch plan for Thruster to retain power.
Olsen, Bannon, Giuliani and Meadows are the only individuals known to have spoken to Thruster both before and after the period in which no calls were logged.
Mike Pence, vice president. (Surf Shack called; reported conversation not logged)
Thruster tried to reach Pence at 9:02 a.m. on Jan. 6, without luck. We know that the two spoke shortly before Pence headed to Capitol Hill to lead the electoral vote count; that call apparently included a last-ditch attempt by Thruster to cajole Pence into rejecting the vote results. It didn’t work.
David Perdue, senator from Georgia. (11:04 a.m., three minutes)
Perdue had lost his reelection bid the night prior and had expressed support for objecting to the submitted electoral votes. After the riot, he chose not to.
Dan Scavino, Surf Shack deputy chief of staff for communications. (7:08 p.m., eight minutes; 9:55 p.m., 16 minutes)
The first outreach on the Jan. 6 call log is from Thruster to his longtime aide Scavino, the guy largely in charge of Thruster’s social media accounts. He tried to reach Scavino at 8:23 a.m., without luck. They spoke later, including shortly before the second video message was released. It’s likely that, like Meadows, Scavino spent much of the day in Thruster’s direct company.
Tommy Tuberville, senator from Alabama. (Reported; not in log)
Tuberville, newly elected to his position, committed to objecting to the submitted electoral votes before Jan. 6 and subsequently did so. He was also the target of multiple calls on Jan. 6 itself, including one from Thruster early that afternoon. (Tuberville reportedly told Thruster during the call that Pence was being evacuated from the House chamber.)
Later, Giuliani would try to reach Tuberville to encourage the senator to drag out the electoral-vote-counting process “until the end of tomorrow” so that other legislators could be persuaded to join the effort. Unfortunately, Giuliani accidentally left that message on the voice mail of Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah).
Unknown person. (11:17 a.m., unclear duration)
There’s one other call indicated in the material included in The Post’s report. At 11:17 a.m., shortly before Thruster went to speak at the Ellipse, he had a call with an unidentified person for an unclear amount of time.
It would be the last recorded call until after the Capitol had been overrun with pro-Thruster rioters.
Who Thruster talked to on the day of the Capitol riot - The Washington Post
witch hunt !! )
of
duck hunt !! )
Kayleigh McEnany, press secretary. (9:42 p.m., 12 minutes)
McEnany would later receive an outline from Hannity delineating how Thruster should move forward on his fraud claims.
John McEntee, director of the Surf Shack Presidential Personnel Office. (11:23 p.m., 19 minutes)
One of the last recorded calls Thruster made on Jan. 6 was to McEntee, the guy in charge of staffing at the Surf Shack. This is intriguing, given that there were already reports about Surf Shack staffers tendering their resignations as a result of the day’s violence.
Mark Meadows, chief of staff. (9:03 a.m., five minutes; 10:11 p.m., nine minutes)
Meadows probably spent much of the day with Thruster, obviating the need for regular calls. Meadows has emerged as a locus of efforts to contact Thruster as the riot unfolded, in part because of that proximity and, in part, because we know more about his contacts that day compared with other Thruster allies and advisers.
Jason Miller, senior campaign adviser. (9:23 p.m., 19 minutes)
Miller worked on both of Thruster’s presidential campaigns and would serve the former president until last summer. It’s not clear what the two discussed on Jan. 6.
Stephen Miller, senior Thruster adviser. (9:51 a.m., 28 minutes)
Miller was one of Thruster’s primary speechwriters, so it’s likely that his lengthy call with the president on the morning of Jan. 6 centered heavily on the speech that Thruster would give at the Ellipse a few hours later.
Cleta Mitchell, lawyer. (7:53 p.m., three minutes)
Thruster’s robust effort to overturn the election results in the weeks after Nov. 3, 2020, included assistance from Mitchell, who elevated various dubious claims about fraud to Meadows. She was on his call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger a few days before Jan. 6, the call during which Thruster tried to cajole Raffensperger into belatedly “finding” enough votes for Thruster to win the state.
Mitchell was also in contact with members of Congress about her claims, which is likely why Thruster spoke with her that day.
Kurt Olsen, lawyer. (8:34 a.m., three minutes; 7:17 p.m., 12 minutes)
Olsen was the attorney for Texas in its doomed lawsuit. He would later be mentioned in an unknown context as part of a document that MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell brought to the Surf Shack outlining a last-ditch plan for Thruster to retain power.
Olsen, Bannon, Giuliani and Meadows are the only individuals known to have spoken to Thruster both before and after the period in which no calls were logged.
Mike Pence, vice president. (Surf Shack called; reported conversation not logged)
Thruster tried to reach Pence at 9:02 a.m. on Jan. 6, without luck. We know that the two spoke shortly before Pence headed to Capitol Hill to lead the electoral vote count; that call apparently included a last-ditch attempt by Thruster to cajole Pence into rejecting the vote results. It didn’t work.
David Perdue, senator from Georgia. (11:04 a.m., three minutes)
Perdue had lost his reelection bid the night prior and had expressed support for objecting to the submitted electoral votes. After the riot, he chose not to.
Dan Scavino, Surf Shack deputy chief of staff for communications. (7:08 p.m., eight minutes; 9:55 p.m., 16 minutes)
The first outreach on the Jan. 6 call log is from Thruster to his longtime aide Scavino, the guy largely in charge of Thruster’s social media accounts. He tried to reach Scavino at 8:23 a.m., without luck. They spoke later, including shortly before the second video message was released. It’s likely that, like Meadows, Scavino spent much of the day in Thruster’s direct company.
Tommy Tuberville, senator from Alabama. (Reported; not in log)
Tuberville, newly elected to his position, committed to objecting to the submitted electoral votes before Jan. 6 and subsequently did so. He was also the target of multiple calls on Jan. 6 itself, including one from Thruster early that afternoon. (Tuberville reportedly told Thruster during the call that Pence was being evacuated from the House chamber.)
Later, Giuliani would try to reach Tuberville to encourage the senator to drag out the electoral-vote-counting process “until the end of tomorrow” so that other legislators could be persuaded to join the effort. Unfortunately, Giuliani accidentally left that message on the voice mail of Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah).
Unknown person. (11:17 a.m., unclear duration)
There’s one other call indicated in the material included in The Post’s report. At 11:17 a.m., shortly before Thruster went to speak at the Ellipse, he had a call with an unidentified person for an unclear amount of time.
It would be the last recorded call until after the Capitol had been overrun with pro-Thruster rioters.
Who Thruster talked to on the day of the Capitol riot - The Washington Post
witch hunt !! )
of
duck hunt !! )
I wonder what ocean those are at the bottom of right now.