You tease!Personally, I don't want to support Matt and i'll leave it at that.
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You tease!Personally, I don't want to support Matt and i'll leave it at that.
a lot of the Lost stock models seem to have dims tuned toward slightly heavier guysSo many models/stock sizes, why go through the hassle of a custom?
honesty is the main thingYeah, I talked to Lovelace about getting a sooper snake and he straight said 6 moths. At least he was honest.
CI takes 6-8 weeks for most people.
The last custom CI I got was 5 weeks.
Exactlya lot of the Lost stock models seem to have dims tuned toward slightly heavier guys
thisSo many models/stock sizes, why go through the hassle of a custom?
That one shapers night was so fun where I had bailey convinced that Kp in the oc was my sonHands up if you ordered a board to spend more time with Niki or Bailey
The custom boards have order #'s that are linked to a file file. you can replicate or teak based on that file. Unless you are talking about something different, like off the rack. Not sure about that..I inquired about ordering one through a shop, and they told me that Mayhem doesn't keep digital records. Your order is on the shop deposit receipt and a handwritten order form in triplicate. Fine if you are ordering from a local shaper, but the largest surfboard manufacturer in the world?
I dunno. Given the sheer number/variety of models they offer, and from many of these posts, it just sounds to me like their business model is mass production of stock boards rather than customs. They clearly prefer you to "customize" your board choice from their existing models and multiple sets of HP/bro/domesticated dims. Their shapers spend their time on the customs for their huge team of pros, who then market & sell the board models to the gen pop with all the relentless & well-coordinated PR, social media, etc. It sounds like custom orders for Joe Shmo go to the bottom of the pile, and get done whenever they have time. Just my impression from an outside observer. The boards obviously work for a lot of people, but personally, I've never been that interested in buying one, just don't dig their whole vibe.It’s sad that shapers can’t seem to come out of the customer experience dark ages and act like it so hard.
They spend all this money supporting pros, developing new models and distributing them through dealers across the world only to lose the customer once they try and order a custom and it comes out wrong several months later.
I’d love to sit down with a handful of shapers and educate them on service delivery.
You'd be surprised. Shaping HQ doesn't look anything close to FoxCon (closer to a bunch of garage builders with some machines in the same location from what I saw) and I doubt there are a bunch of MBAs running around crunching numbers to increase efficiency.My experience was basically fax and pray.
They seem to know how to use a computer to post on social media and to control their shaping machines but tracking orders on one using a very basic system is beyond their abilities.
This isn't the guy in his garage down the street. They are one of the largest surfboard producers in the world.
Not to derail the thread... but what is the thought process of ordering a board thru ...lost, CI or Rusty?
The blank goes through a machine and is fine tuned by someone other than Matt, Al or Rusty. Wouldn't be surprised if the signatures are the boards are forged as well. And I'm not singling out these three... it could be from any well-known shaper who has ghost shapers.
So what's the deal? Are you buying one of their boards based on marketing? Why not just print a picture of the board you want along with the dims to your local shaper? You have the benefit of not only supporting a local, but also getting feedback when they see you surf. They can also tweak the board to work on your local breaks. Has always worked for me.
But like another said, I have no desire to give Matt business. Whatever.
I somewhat agree with your point which is why I get boards from guys like Xanadu, T Patterson and Stamps who are world class shapers but still finish all their boards. However the point can be made that a board produced by a machine has already had its most important design characteristics built into the blank before the ghost shaper touches it. I think a finish shaper can certainly ruin a board but most are competent and know what the master shaper wants for each model. Getting a local shaper to copy someone else's design you are less likely to get a copy of the original design. Albeit the local shaper version may actually work better for you if its tweaked for local waves and your ability. Even though its pure marketing sometimes it is reassuring to see a design pushed to its limits by a pro so you know whats possible with the board before shelling out a bunch of cash.