***Official Impeachment Proceedings***

Surfdog

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So you should have nothing to complain about then, right?

Or is the problem that it's Trump and Minion's lies that are cracking?
I don't have ANY problem with this going public. It should've been so from the get go. But no, Shciff had to audition them first for the best actors to eventually go primetime.
 

FecalFace

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You guys all know this is about the fear of making Biden look bad. He was your front-runner
Biden is whose front runner?

nobody on this board supports his nomination.

this is what you fucktards don’t get.

Nobody sane would back a criminal, only you people.

I don’t care how much I like someone, if it was revealed that (s)he was 000.1% of a scumbag conman that Trump is, I would not back him ever.

you don’t have that problem.

total loss of moral compass. Becuz TEARS.
 

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Again. Hunters Ukraine allegations have already been debunked. Not illegal. Ethically poor. Far too many people get hired based on their name.

But Hunter has Nothing to do with Trump and his request to Ukraine's president.

The point of public testimony is so the public can see for themselves. 300 pages of testimonies is hard to digest.
Yes, it is, especially when the MSM picks and chooses what to hype from them, and not be truly objective in reporting on it.
 

utoma

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I don't have ANY problem with this going public. It should've been so from the get go. But no, Shciff had to audition them first for the best actors to eventually go primetime.

Delusional, they specifically state they wanted the testimonies under wraps so people won't corroborate their stories.

Seems reasonable in the early stages of an inquiry to see if the allegations are worth following up on.
 

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Biden is whose front runner?

nobody on this board supports his nomination.

this is what you fucktards don’t get.

Nobody sane would back a criminal, only you people.

I don’t care how much I like someone, if it was revealed that (s)he was 000.1% of a scumbag conman that Trump is, I would not back him ever.

you don’t have that problem.

total loss of moral compass. Becuz TEARS.
He's been consistently the front-runner in most all polls. Ya, many here for good reason don't like Biden, but obviously many back in late summer (before whistleblower) still liked him better than most ALL of lurched left field of Dem candidates.
 

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Yes, it is, especially when the MSM picks and chooses what to hype from them, and not be truly objective in reporting on it.
The weekly hot pick for the Democratic nominee by CNN or MSNBC has absolutely nothing to do with "Trump withholding foreign aid in exchange for their president to make damaging public remarks on a political opponent".

Do you see how crazy it all seems. The foundation that Trump believed a corruption theory, that has been debunked, has nothing to do with it.

It is about Trump's follow-up action, to ask Ukraine's president to make a public remark and investigate, or Trump withholds foreign aid.

You are dense.
 

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Delusional, they specifically state they wanted the testimonies under wraps so people won't corroborate their stories.

Seems reasonable in the early stages of an inquiry to see if the allegations are worth following up on.
What damning "evidence" did we learn that wasn't already in the call transcript?
 

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He's been consistently the front-runner in most all polls. Ya, many here for good reason don't like Biden, but obviously many back in late summer (before whistleblower) still liked him better than most ALL of lurched left field of Dem candidates.
who were you talking to when you said “your front runner” if nobody here supports him?

he’s steadily losing ground in all polls

you people are the only ones willfully supporting a criminal, just because he’s on your team.
 

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If you believed the pizza parlor in DC was holding children hostage, and selling the children as sex slaves to DNC party members.

You call the FBI and report it.

You don't storm the pizza parlor with a gun. (Which actually happened cause the Republicans are idiots)
 

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I don't have ANY problem with this going public. It should've been so from the get go. But no, Shciff had to audition them first for the best actors to eventually go primetime.
Auditioning? Isn't it standard procedure to gather evidence and interview witnesses prior to a trial? At that stage, despite some's feelings of entitlement, the prosecution is under no obligation to air everything to the media.
 

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The weekly hot pick for the Democratic nominee by CNN or MSNBC has absolutely nothing to do with "Trump withholding foreign aid in exchange for their president to make damaging public remarks on a political opponent".

Do you see how crazy it all seems. The foundation that Trump believed a corruption theory, that has been debunked, has nothing to do with it.

It is about Trump's follow-up action, to ask Ukraine's president to make a public remark and investigate, or Trump withholds foreign aid.

You are dense.
Problem is, none of it EVER came to fruition. No aid money was withheld. No info about the Biden's was given in supposed "exchange" for it.

Trump admin has supported Ukraine in fighting off Russia 100x more than the Obama admin ever did, yet they're "posing a national security risk" in making sure already approved aid was corruption free.
 
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who were you talking to when you said “your front runner” if nobody here supports him?

he’s steadily losing ground in all polls

you people are the only ones willfully supporting a criminal, just because he’s on your team.
Polls on CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews and others ALL showed Biden was well in the lead, prior to the whistleblower. Memories are selective and short here.
 

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Problem is, none of it EVER came to fruition. No aid money was withheld. No info from Biden was given in supposed "exchange" for it.

Trump admin has supported Ukraine is fighting off Russia 100x more than the Obama admin ever did, yet they're "posing a national security risk" in making sure already approved aid was corruption free.

So did the goal post just move?

Asking for quid pro quo is fine, but since there wasn't an exchange, its okay?

Let me draw you a timeline:

September 1: Sondland relayed the message that the withholding of military aide was connected to a public statement on the Bidens.

September 8: Sondland told Taylor that the Ukrainians have agreed to do a CNN interview set for September 13th.

September 11: White house finally released military aid to Ukraine, due to whistleblower making public the call, and public attention about this matter.

September 13 is the date of the CNN interview with Ukrainian president. Was canceled due to whistle blower complaint becoming public.
 

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Polls on CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews and others ALL showed Biden was well in the lead, prior to the whistleblower. Memories are selective and short here.
What does that have to do with anything?

He's losing NOW

The point still stands.

You're supporting a criminal and you have no qualms about it.

Not so with Biden.
 

Surfdog

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What does that have to do with anything?

He's losing NOW

The point still stands.

You're supporting a criminal and you have no qualms about it.

Not so with Biden.
Of course you deny the whistleblower had anything to do with Biden dropping in the polls.

Without the whistleblower, Biden would still be riding high in the polls. You can thank Eric for that.
 

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Of course you deny the whistleblower had anything to do with Biden dropping in the polls.

Without the whistleblower, Biden would still be riding high in the polls. You can thank Eric for that.
Of course it has to do with the whistleblower.

Some people have conscience and ethics rules they adhere to.

Not you.

Hunter Biden stuff, while not criminal, is gross and voters reacted to it.

Trump did million way worse things and you are still standing behind him. That's fucking vile.